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Old 01-03-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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I'm fixing up my ASU/Class A dress uniform and I can't log in to AKO to get my original DD214 from basic, but if you graduated basic training in 2007, which medals do you receive right off the bat? I know there was two.

I got my DD214 that has my deployment and ARCOM medals, I'm just missing the original two. I also hear that you also get a medal after graduating WLC/PLDC? I have my 1059 for that as well, but this is new to me.
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Old 01-03-2016, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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For graduating in 2007:

Army Service Ribbon

National Defense Service Medal


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For WLC:

NCO Professional Development Ribbon
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Old 01-03-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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PLDC graduates get a ribbon with a numeral device. The first level would be a numeral 1.
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Old 01-03-2016, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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PLDC graduates get a ribbon with a numeral device. The first level would be a numeral 1.
Believe first level (warrior leader course, formerly pldc) is indicated by the ribbon itself, only second course and beyond (advanced leader course, formerly bncoc) get numbers.
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Old 01-03-2016, 09:06 PM
 
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Believe first level (warrior leader course, formerly pldc) is indicated by the ribbon itself, only second course and beyond (advanced leader course, formerly bncoc) get numbers.
I believe you are correct. Thanks.
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:02 PM
 
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Found this forum after searching the basic question asked above. I have been dusting off my thirty year old medals and ribbons to display, and I find that I do have a numeral 1 on my NCO Professional Development Ribbon (if memory serves I went through PLDC). It is reflected on my DD214 (I got out in 1991) as well, so I believe that at one time the ribbon AND the number 1 represented the first course, but since then the wearing of the 1 has been rescinded. Anyone know for sure. I'd like to display them correctly, but I sorta liked my little number 1 on my original ribbon.

Dave
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:19 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Found this forum after searching the basic question asked above. I have been dusting off my thirty year old medals and ribbons to display, and I find that I do have a numeral 1 on my NCO Professional Development Ribbon (if memory serves I went through PLDC). It is reflected on my DD214 (I got out in 1991) as well, so I believe that at one time the ribbon AND the number 1 represented the first course, but since then the wearing of the 1 has been rescinded. Anyone know for sure. I'd like to display them correctly, but I sorta liked my little number 1 on my original ribbon.

Dave
The ribbon is the First Award (No numbers on it).

"A change approved in February 1989 completely revised the wear policy of numerals on ribbons and award suspension elements. ... Only the numerals 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 are authorized for wear on the ribbon"

Reference: https://www.hrc.army.mil/content/NCOPDR%20changes
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Old 07-22-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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Correct. No numerals for PLDC/WLC/BLC.

BNCOC/ALC rates the numeral 2, ANCOC/SLC rates numeral 3, as of March 2017 the still not fielded MLC rates numeral 4 which caused the SMC grads to bump from numeral 4 to numeral 5. There is some random ELC out there that supposedly rates the numeral 6.
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Old 07-23-2017, 06:51 AM
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I'm fixing up my ASU/Class A dress uniform and I can't log in to AKO to get my original DD214 from basic, but if you graduated basic training in 2007, which medals do you receive right off the bat? I know there was two.

I got my DD214 that has my deployment and ARCOM medals, I'm just missing the original two. I also hear that you also get a medal after graduating WLC/PLDC? I have my 1059 for that as well, but this is new to me.
You will also have a GWOT, OIF or afghan campaign medal if you were deployed. In addition you will have an overseas ribbon and Good Conduct Medal.

I will also say that on the NCOES ribbon there is no numeral on the first award for WLC/PLDC. Subsequent awards will get the numeral. If you use the Iraq ribbon you are to put a bronze star on it. If your time went across different phases of the campaign you put additional stars.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Campaign_Medal

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  • Phase 1: Liberation of Iraq March 19, 2003 May 1, 2003
  • Phase 2: Transition of Iraq May 2, 2003 June 28, 2004
  • Phase 3: Iraqi Governance June 29, 2004 December 15, 2005
  • Phase 4: National Resolution December 16, 2005 January 9, 2007
  • Phase 5: Iraqi Surge January 10, 2007 December 31, 2008
  • Phase 6: Iraqi Sovereignty January 1, 2009 August 31, 2010
  • Phase 7: Operation New Dawn September 1, 2010 December 15, 2011
In example I served in Apr 2003 to Apr 2004. I have 2 stars on my ribbon for phases 1&2. You will need to look these dates over if your service included Iraq.


Oh one more thing for those who got the GWOT for Iraq service prior to Apr 2005 there is something to consider.

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The Iraq Campaign Medal replaced the Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal (GWOTEM) for service in Iraq from 19 March 2003, through 30 April 2005. Personnel who previously received the GWOTEM for Iraq service were given the option to exchange the medal for the Iraq Campaign Medal. Both medals were not authorized for the same period of service in Iraq, and any Iraq service which followed the Iraq Campaign Medal's creation was recognized only with the ICM.[1]

Last edited by oldsoldier1976; 07-23-2017 at 06:58 AM.. Reason: Added information on GWOT
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Old 07-23-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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You will also have a GWOT, OIF or afghan campaign medal if you were deployed. In addition you will have an overseas ribbon and Good Conduct Medal.

I will also say that on the NCOES ribbon there is no numeral on the first award for WLC/PLDC. Subsequent awards will get the numeral. If you use the Iraq ribbon you are to put a bronze star on it. If your time went across different phases of the campaign you put additional stars.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Campaign_Medal



In example I served in Apr 2003 to Apr 2004. I have 2 stars on my ribbon for phases 1&2. You will need to look these dates over if your service included Iraq.


Oh one more thing for those who got the GWOT for Iraq service prior to Apr 2005 there is something to consider.
I noticed they added phases after I got my Afghanistan Campaign Medal. I was there for two different phases. I probably also qualify for a NATO medal. Trouble is I retired shortly after getting back, so I doubt anything will be awarded at this time.
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