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Old 07-18-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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I know politics is involved but I didn't know it was that bad. Skill at the job must account for something. Are the jobs easy or hard to become good at? Line officer more difficult than restricted officer jobs? vice-versa?
You would think. But that wasn't my experience. Some of the worst techs and operators went on to the higher ranks because they can play the game. Some genuinely scare me and worry me that they'll one day get someone injured or killed.

For the enlisted ranks, it seemed like the collateral duty warriors got the promotions. Organizing a bake sale was more important than knowing your job.

For Officers, It's very political. I knew a lot of senior pilots who couldn't fly their way out of a paper bag and deliberately flew the least amount of hours. But, they knew how to sell themselves and push paper. One of them is now a Flag Officer.
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Old 07-18-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Anybody else remember "If you can't respect the man, at least respect the uniform"?
Every salute is directed at the collar device. Not the slug wearing it.

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Old 07-18-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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Every salute is directed at the collar device. Not the slug wearing it.
I had a couple of bosses I'd have followed into stupid situations. Hmm. Interestingly, they were all Dept of the Navy...and I'm Air Force.
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Old 07-20-2016, 06:40 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I had a couple of bosses I'd have followed into stupid situations. Hmm. Interestingly, they were all Dept of the Navy...and I'm Air Force.
Army: We walk to work?
USAF: Fighter pilot or nobody.
USMC: Somebody's got to carry the Admiral's luggage.
USN: We all go to war together, with clean sheets and ice cream machines.

You may now kill me.
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Old 07-20-2016, 06:48 AM
 
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Army: We walk to work?
USAF: Fighter pilot or nobody.
USMC: Somebody's got to carry the Admiral's luggage.
USN: We all go to war together, with clean sheets and ice cream machines.

You may now kill me.





And I'm Air Force. I've also seen this comic done a bit differently, with Marines storming a beach shouting "I love how this sucks!" and a sailor peering through a porthole at the Marines saying, "Looks like that sucks."


And yes, in the Air Force we did have air conditioned tents in the Gulf War. Ain't no shame in that.

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Old 07-20-2016, 01:12 PM
 
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Army: We walk to work?
USAF: Fighter pilot or nobody.
USMC: Somebody's got to carry the Admiral's luggage.
USN: We all go to war together, with clean sheets and ice cream machines.

You may now kill me.
Was on a boat years ago where the ice cream machine broke down (not the 633, SUBMARINER, we didn't even have a soda machine on that boomer).


Said failure was treated as a greater casualty then if seawater was rushing into the battery well .




My young one is thinking of joining the military and has been talking to the army and the marines. We were out to dinner down at the shore a few weeks ago and a coast guard buoy tender tied up near the restaurant. The tanned, co-ed crew of young twenty-somethings looked to be having a great time ............. my son asked me what's that? I told him that's the coast guard, son. One could see the gears of reason turning in his head.


Now if he could just get the CG recruiter to return his call
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Old 07-20-2016, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Was on a boat years ago where the ice cream machine broke down (not the 633, SUBMARINER, we didn't even have a soda machine on that boomer).
Ice cream machines break down a lot, just like the washing machines do. You could have soda if you brought it with you before the patrol. We always had the cool-aid [bug-juice] machines though.

Some of us would bring 15 cans of soda on each patrol. So we could drink one soda every week. I did that one patrol. Before doing that I liked soda, but that really turned me anti-soda.
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Old 07-20-2016, 04:18 PM
 
Location: SW OK (AZ Native)
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Was on a boat years ago where the ice cream machine broke down (not the 633, SUBMARINER, we didn't even have a soda machine on that boomer).
I was the deployed wing supervisor of flying at Al Jaber in Kuwait one afternoon when a pair of F/A-18s from a boat diverted in. We needed to find a place to de-arm them and park them away from the KAF F-18s; I asked the ground controller to query them why they had diverted; the AOC and radar had not told us, although usually it meant a fouled deck on the carrier. Their lead said the AUTODOG was broken. I had to look that up later, autodog being another name for the ice cream machine and how when dispensed it looks like something out of the south end of a northbound dog.
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Old 07-20-2016, 04:22 PM
 
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Ice cream machines break down a lot, just like the washing machines do. You could have soda if you brought it with you before the patrol. We always had the cool-aid [bug-juice] machines though.

Some of us would bring 15 cans of soda on each patrol. So we could drink one soda every week. I did that one patrol. Before doing that I liked soda, but that really turned me anti-soda.
Speaking of MILITARY LIFE,


When I first reported to the 633 we were doing refit in Charleston. Since the boat was lacking a soda machine the rec committee decided to buy a truck full of canned soda to sell during the patrol. Of course I was not involved in this planning.


I was on board for perhaps a week when someone tells me to meet the guy with the "Piggedly-Wiggedly" truck and get the soda stored. Of course I figured they were messing with me but sure enough I went to the pier and there was the soda truck..............and what appeared to be a thousand cases of pop.


This is why I should never be trusted with anything important................. I gave a crane operator a few cases in exchange for him swinging the pop onto the missile deck. The weak link was me not understanding that you need to pile the cases onto pallets before picking it up, I just put then onto cargo nets and had them lifted. The result was a fair percentage of the individual cans falling into the Cooper River, much to my dismay.


At least I never got asked to that again. Have a nice evening Brother of the Phin.
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Old 07-20-2016, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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For Officers, It's very political. I knew a lot of senior pilots who couldn't fly their way out of a paper bag and deliberately flew the least amount of hours. But, they knew how to sell themselves and push paper. One of them is now a Flag Officer.
That bad? They'll never get in with an airline if that's the case.
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