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Old 09-15-2016, 04:18 PM
 
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Like the title says, I have an other than honorable discharge.

I joined the Navy back in 2006 at the age of 20 and went thru boot camp. I then went to A school and didn't make it thru school. At the time my Grandpa was passing away(8% of his heart was working) and the Navy really didn't want me to leave but ultimately let me. After returning I was re-assigned to a new A school. I went down to Mississippi and started school there.

I went AWOL from there for a few months (I was young and dumb) and then got arrested in Chicago under the warrant that the Navy issued for me being a deserter. I then got released the next day after signing a paper saying I would return to the base. So I went back to my base and turned myself in. I went thru a court martial. I received a reduce in rank/pay and a other than honorable discharge with a serious offence listed. I didn't think anything about it and returned home.

Fast forward a few years and I have graduated from a Tech School and got my CCNA(cisco certified network assoicate). I found a job and have been there the past 3 years. I decided I would like to move on to a new position and started looking for a new job. I applied at a few places and got hired at the school district as a network tech. So I put in my two weeks at my current job and went thru the background check at my new job.

It came back with something I had totally forgot about. My warrant for my arrest(for being AWOL). They asked me for paperwork that the warrant had been dropped. So I called the police department that I got arrested, they tell me they don't have any information(I gave them the case #, my name, etc). They suggested I call the Clerk of Courts. So I call them and they don't find any info either and suggest I call the Navy Awol center.

I call them and they say they only issue the warrant, that they don't do anything beyond that and suggested I call the Base I was processed at. So I call them and they say they don't keep any paperwork after two years to contact the VA. So I contact the VA and they don't have any information on the Warrant being cleared but send me everything they have. I go thru it all and the only thing is the DD214 that shows I was discharged with an other than honorable(serious offense).

So not wanting to lie I contact the school district and let them know. They never return my call and I miss a call from the principal at the school I was getting hired at leaving a voicemail saying if I could call her back. I tried calling back and the school is closed. So I go back to work no thinking anything until my co-worker says wow my friend just said he got the job at the school you got hired at. After that my heart sunk. Now I don't know if I can keep the current position I'm at or what to tell them(my boss doesn't know yet). I want to keep working and keep improving my life but I feel like the dumb mistakes I made when I was younger are hindering me from doing that.

I guess I have a few questions.

1. Any suggestions on if I'm able to expunge the Warrant or how to go about this? I keep getting the run around that no one has any info on this.

2. Any way to upgrade my discharge? I was young, dumb and I really wish I could go back and change this.

3. How do I keep my current job? What do I tell my boss? Do I look for a different one and try to move on?

 
Old 09-15-2016, 10:14 PM
 
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Actions have consequences as you're now seeing. You can petition to have your discharge upgraded but it isn't likely since everything is factual and how it happened according to you.

That is the problem, so many people make "young dumb" mistakes and then want to be treated like they didn't make those mistakes. That isn't fair to those of us that were responsible and didn't make the "young dumb" mistakes. Why should you not have to answer for your mistakes and be treated like those of us that didn't make those mistakes?

How do you keep your current job? Go tell your boss that you have changed your mind and enjoy where you are at and would like to remain in your current position.
 
Old 09-15-2016, 11:41 PM
 
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Actions have consequences as you're now seeing. You can petition to have your discharge upgraded but it isn't likely since everything is factual and how it happened according to you.

That is the problem, so many people make "young dumb" mistakes and then want to be treated like they didn't make those mistakes. That isn't fair to those of us that were responsible and didn't make the "young dumb" mistakes. Why should you not have to answer for your mistakes and be treated like those of us that didn't make those mistakes?

How do you keep your current job? Go tell your boss that you have changed your mind and enjoy where you are at and would like to remain in your current position.
Feel better after that second paragraph?
 
Old 09-16-2016, 12:03 AM
 
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I would hire a lawyer to sort out what ever is going on, either there is a warrent or there isent. You have a right for it to come off your record if it does not in fact exist. As far as the OTH its not as big of a deal as people make it out to be. You lost the job because someone screwed up and did not clear the warrent from what ever system the back ground check they ran. IF you had enough money you could probably sue because you have expereinced real damages due to someones incompetence.


I am really glad that I have an uncharchterized discharge so I can still get a fed job I just dont get the points. I basicly asked permission to leave the military and got lucky. That is probably what you should have done.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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Is this who you called?

Deserter Processing

First guess is that DD Forms 553 and/or 616 were not completed.
 
Old 09-17-2016, 08:55 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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You can't expunge a warrant. But, get a lawyer to help you ensure the warrant reflects as closed. Good luck.
 
Old 09-18-2016, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Southern Oregon
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You might want to see is you can get your OTH discharge changed, if possible. This can and will effect any future VA benefits you might want to apply for. The VA will deny most applications if the discharge is OTH or worse.
 
Old 03-13-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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Does other than honorable situation work the same way for the Marines as the other branches I've been trying to find help and find out how to get back into any branch is it possible to get into the service with a drug charge
 
Old 03-13-2017, 06:41 PM
 
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Get a lawyer to help you document the warrant as closed. That's the key.

As for your discharge, the odds of you getting it changed are slim and none. Speaking as a former member of the Army Board for the Correction of Military Records (Navy has a similar thing you'd have to apply to), you were court-martialed and that was the sentence. No chance at all of getting it changed.

Focus on correcting the warrant issue and you'll be fine in future.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: KC, MO
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Exclamation Other Than Honorable Discharge

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Get a lawyer to help you document the warrant as closed. That's the key.

As for your discharge, the odds of you getting it changed are slim and none. Speaking as a former member of the Army Board for the Correction of Military Records (Navy has a similar thing you'd have to apply to), you were court-martialed and that was the sentence. No chance at all of getting it changed.

Focus on correcting the warrant issue and you'll be fine in future.

"As for your discharge, the odds of you getting it changed are slim and none. Speaking as a former member of the Army Board for the Correction of Military Records (Navy has a similar thing you'd have to apply to), you were court-martialed and that was the sentence. No chance at all of getting it changed."

Colonel (you are/were a Colonel, yes?),

How in the world could you be so negative?

You have no idea what extenuating and mitigating circumstances Ugly Duckling might bring to the attention of a review board and how that board may react.

"...you'll be fine in future...". Yeah? Says who? You are a fortune teller? You can read the future?

Ugly Duckling owes it to himself/herself to follow the procedure for having his/her case reviewed by the Review Board and see where the chips may fall. It costs nothing to put the process in play and we are talking about a person's future here.

Your attitude is inappropriate, no matter what you think of this person. You sound like you are brown boot.

I enlisted, volunteered for Vietnam, stayed an additional six months, have no place in my heart for deserters and those who ran off to Canada and even I have at least a teaspoon of sympathy for Ugly Duckling.

You ought to keep in mind that in Ugly Duckling's mind, he was AWOL, not a deserter. He is only a 'deserter' because he was AWOL for over 30 days, right?

This person should be encouraged to give the Review Board a shake and see what happens.


Not being an ax murderer, I'd say Ugly Duckling deserves at least a modicum of consideration.

(You never did anything foolish in your youth? You were perfect??)

If the Review Board rejects his request for an upgrade of characterization of service, then you can say, "I told you so".


Harumph.



Paul............


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