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Old 04-08-2017, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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It has nothing to do with morality police or being P.C.

The Marines hold themselves to a higher standard, not only among the other military branches, but among civilians as well. This kind of behavior is unacceptable anyway you look at it, and has absolutely zero to do with 'boys being boys.'

The only people that will excuse this type of behavior are people who never served in the Marines/military, or people who are clueless as to what the military is all about.
"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps" - Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945
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Old 04-08-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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It does sound like they are busting the females for taking the photos/videos and supplying them.

They are busting males for viewing the photos/videos that the females supplied.
What was the purpose of these women taking nude photos of themselves? Did they intend for no one to ever see it? And if so, why take the photographs?

I think if someone "stole" the photos then that's wrong, & should be punished accordingly. But it's not wrong if someone simply happened to see them. These are grown women so it's not child porn. Supposedly, some of the men made disparaging comments about the womens' bodies. That's too bad, but I don't think it rises to the level of some military crime. And if they're gonna take the pic of themselves, be prepared somebody might not think they're that hot. KWIM?
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Old 04-08-2017, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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It does sound like they are busting the females for taking the photos/videos and supplying them.

They are busting males for viewing the photos/videos that the females supplied.


If the girls were all of age then its just wrong to punish someone for just looking at the pictures. I agree that someone who uploaded them or stole them should be punished but not the people just looking at them.
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Old 04-08-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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What was the purpose of these women taking nude photos of themselves? Did they intend for no one to ever see it? And if so, why take the photographs?
It baffles my mind, how an individual takes a selfie and shares that selfie, without the intent of taking and sharing a selfie.

Once a selfie is shared to a group or website, I do not see how you would expect the distribution to then be limited.

Our local high school has less than 100 students in each graduating class. Every time one of the girls distributes a selfie, I am assuming it is the parents of the boys who are then active in trying to get copies deleted. [at least that was what I did, when I found a few dozen selfies on my son's PC. I recognized the faces of our local teen girls. It was time for a long talk with my son about the consequences of possessing child porn].

I do not understand the purpose of selfies.



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... I think if someone "stole" the photos then that's wrong, & should be punished accordingly. But it's not wrong if someone simply happened to see them. These are grown women so it's not child porn. Supposedly, some of the men made disparaging comments about the womens' bodies. That's too bad, but I don't think it rises to the level of some military crime. And if they're gonna take the pic of themselves, be prepared somebody might not think they're that hot. KWIM?
The one time that was aware of this happening during my Active Duty career, among US servicemembers, the females were punished.
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Old 04-08-2017, 11:17 PM
 
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It baffles my mind, how an individual takes a selfie and shares that selfie, without the intent of taking and sharing a selfie.

Once a selfie is shared to a group or website, I do not see how you would expect the distribution to then be limited.
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There really is no way to limit it, once it's out in cyberspace.

I do not feel sorry for these women as they are adults and knew what they were doing. If someone had taken pictures of them undressing without their knowledge, that would be entirely different.
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Old 04-09-2017, 01:52 AM
 
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I'm a woman currently serving in the military on Active Duty. This will not be a popular belief, but if a woman is stupid enough to let pictures like that get taken, then she should know the risk. I don't feel bad for most of the women.

I am disgusted by the INDIVIDUALS that did this, but I'm not mad at the Corps. It wasn't a sanctioned or official website. Military people are still private citizens. We use social media. No one monitors my facebook or citydata accounts, so this isn't the fault of the Marines. This is an individual issue. The individuals who shared the photos were wrong and should be held responsible, but the Marine Corps/military at large, are not responsible for the behavior.

I have been getting anti-rape, anti-sexual harassment, and anti-discrimination training crammed down my throat for years. The service branches make sure we know damn well better than to behave that way. But, there are over a million people serving in the military. You can't expect to control them all, and you can't expect them to all always act with honor.
thank you for writing this..

the op asked for input from an actual women in service..and you gave it,,,i don't think its what she wanted to hear....

I think this thread was set up to be a man beating thread that men are just sexual predators
and this is an embarrassment on our servicemen and country..

however....you made some excellent points

where is the responsibility of the women?? or we cannot even ask this question,,,because they are always the victims???

the pc women want it one way...its the mans fault!!
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Old 04-09-2017, 03:07 AM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Women talk nude photos of themselves and share them now days it happens.

When our youngest son was in high school I happened to look at his email. He had nude photos from nearly every girl in his high school. I recognized the faces of those girls. Right before he turned 18, I did the whole lecture about child porn. It makes no difference who took the photo. The are underage girls and as an 18 year old, if he possessed the photos it is child porn.

Girls take nude photos of themselves and email them around. Guys who possess the photos get busted.

Coworker's wife got upset that their 14yo son has the PornHub app (or was it PornTube? ) on his phone. His response was to not really interfere with that, and let it be.


Man, this stuff's everywhere! Didn't even know those sites had their own apps!
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Old 04-09-2017, 10:48 AM
 
Location: USA
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It's nothing new. Girls would take unclothed selfies with Polaroid cameras back when I was younger. A little harder to distribute I would admit.
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It has nothing to do with morality police or being P.C.

The Marines hold themselves to a higher standard, not only among the other military branches, but among civilians as well. This kind of behavior is unacceptable anyway you look at it, and has absolutely zero to do with 'boys being boys.'

The only people that will excuse this type of behavior are people who never served in the Marines/military, or people who are clueless as to what the military is all about.
I agree with this.

There is no place for this in an institution as noble as the U.S. Marine Corps.

This said, These "marines" only represent themselves, and they do not represent the Marine Corps and other honorable Marines.

I love and respect many many many Marines, they all respect and protect women.
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Old 04-09-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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First Marines punished for online conduct following nude-photo scandal
By Thomas Gibbons-Neff April 7, 2017

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Two Marines have been disciplined for posting derogatory comments on social media, marking the first time the Marine Corps has officially punished members for online misconduct following last month’s revelations that hundreds of service members shared illicit photos of their female counterparts on a Facebook group, Marine officials said Friday.

The two active-duty Marines, one a noncommissioned officer and the other a junior enlisted Marine, had made demeaning comments about one of their enlisted leaders, said a Marine official, who requested anonymity to speak about punishments that had not been made public. The Marines were reduced in rank and lost pay, the official said. The Marines belonged to 2nd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, an infantry unit stationed in California.

“The Marines and Sailors of 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines do not tolerate personal attacks on their Marines, online or elsewhere,” said the unit’s commander, Lt. Col. Warren Cook, in a statement. “This kind of behavior flies in the face of our service’s core values and this organization refuses to condone it.”
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