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Old 05-01-2017, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I thought Donald Trump was going to fix this?
He said weekend in Harrisburg that things were better in the VA system under his leadership.

Having my doubts about that.
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Old 05-01-2017, 03:18 PM
 
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He said weekend in Harrisburg that things were better in the VA system under his leadership.

Having my doubts about that.

It sure doesn't sound like things are better.
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Old 05-09-2017, 01:45 AM
 
Location: TX
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IMHO things have not improved in the VA system at all since he took over.
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Old 05-09-2017, 02:16 PM
 
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IMHO things have not improved in the VA system at all since he took over.
VA Choice Program just got extended.
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Old 05-09-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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From: https://www.va.gov/opa/choiceact/

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What is the Choice Program?

If you are already enrolled in VA health care, the Choice Program allows you to receive health care within your community. Using this program does NOT impact your existing VA health care, or any other VA benefit.

On April 19, 2017, President Trump signed a law that removes the August, 7, 2017, expiration date and allows VA to utilize funding dedicated to the Veterans Choice Program (VCP) until it is exhausted. The VCP is a critical program that increases access to care for Veterans by authorizing millions of appointments for Veterans in the community.

Click here to view a fact sheet about the changes this law made.
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Old 05-09-2017, 10:56 PM
 
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VA Choice Program just got extended.
Actually, they didn't really extend the Choice Program,. they just authorized the use of the unspent funds for the current fiscal year to carry-over to the next fiscal year until it's exhausted. At current rate of spending and using the VA's own 2017 Budget and FY 2018 Advance Appropriation Request, that unspent money will only cover about 4 months of program expenses at current levels.

The VA will still need an appropriation for the new spending year to cover the program's cost for the full year. And with all the campaign promises everyone makes to veterans, the program will be ever so much more expensive. If the new money is not allocated, this new law just changes the sunset date from a fixed date (end of current budget) to a time nobody knows which is whenever the left over savings runs out.

However, it's an almost given that when a new full year budget is passed, and if passed before the current budget expires, the left over amount will just get absorbed back into the federal treasury.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Indianapolis
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He said weekend in Harrisburg that things were better in the VA system under his leadership.

Having my doubts about that.
He also said he "just came up with a couple of days ago" the term "priming the pump."

Having my doubts about that.

He also said he got "the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan."

Having my doubts about that.



As I'm sure you know, I could go on for pages about the things Trump has said, just in his very short time as POTUS, that are untrue.
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Old 05-13-2017, 09:53 AM
 
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He also said he "just came up with a couple of days ago" the term "priming the pump."

Having my doubts about that.

He also said he got "the biggest Electoral College win since Ronald Reagan."

Having my doubts about that.



As I'm sure you know, I could go on for pages about the things Trump has said, just in his very short time as POTUS, that are untrue.

That was the point I was trying to make .Trump used Veterans and the VA as a Political tool to get elected other that I have seen no ,policies ,orders or decrees from him that have made a single improvement in the VA.If I understand what he signed and if I am wrong please correct me but that was an extension until the money runs out and only for people already enrolled.After the funding is gone ,so is the program,correct?
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Old 05-13-2017, 01:22 PM
 
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That was the point I was trying to make .Trump used Veterans and the VA as a Political tool to get elected other that I have seen no ,policies ,orders or decrees from him that have made a single improvement in the VA.If I understand what he signed and if I am wrong please correct me but that was an extension until the money runs out and only for people already enrolled.After the funding is gone ,so is the program,correct?
The Choice Program is funded on paper only until August of 2017. After that date, the program can still exist on paper just there would be no money to pay for any services.

The VA has dramatically improved their ability to provide services and that resulted in a cost savings to the american taxpayers. It's estimated that when August comes around , there will be a surplus of funds that was not spent. Under normal circumstances, Congress would have a new budget in place that provides new funds for the program for another year or so. The surplus money would return to the Treasury or Congress can allocate it for other Veteran programs, or they can use it to give themselves a raise.

If there is no new budget in place come August, what the President said was it's alright to take the surplus money and continue spending it on the program until it finally runs. Of course the expectation is that there will be a new budget in place.

Now to address the issues you raised. Yes, the wording most certainly appears to pay for a very narrow extension which would leave veterans entering the Choice Program after that date, out in the cold. Even those already in the program but have a change of providers or services can also be thrown to the side of the road. Since this law also modifies the payment methods, the VA may be blowing through the available money faster than expected. There was no budget analyse done on this so nobody knows what will really happen. The money could last a full year but since the President decided to add new things to the Choice Program, it most likely will only last four months now. Unfortunately veterans have always been a political football, some of it good, some of it bad, but still a football. This will never change since veterans can fall victims to lip service every so easy.
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Old 09-23-2017, 10:43 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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I really do struggle with this, much as a I do paying for any type of kinship care. Once upon a time the assumption was family members took care of family members because they were, you know, family. Additionally, there is 100% disability, where work is no longer realistic but there is still functioning and self-care capability, and 100% disability, where the veteran can not be left alone kind of disabled. They are the same category and the service members get the same benefits, but they are very different situations. The theory of paying kinship care is probably primarily that it is cheaper than putting them in a full care facility and, secondarily, they will do better. My understanding is the VA was once almost automatically granting kinship pay to 100% disabled vets and that now they are trying to back peddle to granting it only in those cases where not providing it will result in hospitalization or other type of institutionalism.
My husband is the second type of 100% disabled that you described. He cannot be left alone, therefore I stay home 24/7 and take care of him. He recently broke his hip and spent 8 weeks in rehab after surgery. The VA rehab/nursing facility has mostly permanent patients there. They encouraged me to consider allowing him to stay there permanently because they felt that now that he can't even walk it will be too much for me to handle. They assured me that, due to his 100% status, there will be no cost for him to stay. That is good to know just in case I need it some day, but I felt he would be better off at home.

I have been taking care of him for years and I don't get paid any type of kinship pay but we live a simple lifestyle and I don't require it. I cannot imagine how difficult is would be for someone who lives hand-to-mouth to have to give up their job to take care of a spouse. I think it is very important that the VA does everything possible to help these disabled vets that need round the clock care to remain in their homes. In the long-run it would be much cheaper for the government to pay a spouse to take care of them than to institutionalize them at a great cost, both monetarily and psychologically.
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