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Old 04-27-2017, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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I've toured World War II subs, and the lack of privacy would drive me crazy. The sailors were stacked 3 high, most of them in one dormitory-style compartment. Even the officers had 4 to a room. Only the captain had his own space.


It also struck me that a boat with 80 people aboard had only 2 showers and 4 toilets.


What's it like now, on today's larger submarines? Is there any more privacy available? More bathrooms?
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Old 04-27-2017, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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Basic training drilled the sense of humor and sense of adventure out of him. He did not laugh at "24 guys go out in a sub and in 3 months 12 couples return." Also he was not amused by my efforts to convince him to hijack the sub, drive up the st Laurence seaway and give us rides. I explained an army guy in San Diego hijacked a tank and went for a ride up the 405, how is a sub on the St Laurence Seaway any different? All he said was he was not qualified to operate a submarine since he is only an electrician. Come on kid, you can drive a car, how much harder can it be to drive a submarine?

Good humor above.

I think on surface ships there are male/female couples. Not sure, though.

I remember the hijacked tank in the news. IIRC, the perp was loaded on meth and up for days. I remember seeing the tank roll over a car like it was a tin can.
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Old 04-27-2017, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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I remember the hijacked tank in the news. IIRC, the perp was loaded on meth and up for days. I remember seeing the tank roll over a car like it was a tin can.
I remember it mostly because neither at Fort Knox (at that time) or with a division we did not have cars on the ranges to run over. For the jokes about "crunchies" we really had no first hand experience of just how big an obstacle we could reasonably expect a tank to run over. Training range time being limited we didn't want to spend it busting track if we threw off a thread while stressing the tank. A few crews accidentally ran into Germans and wrecked their cars but that does not translate to giving a driver ram it order.
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Old 04-28-2017, 01:50 AM
 
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Family grams - LOL

Hell we were lucky to have them come through complete. Half-a-gram was more like it
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Old 04-28-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Does the lack of natural light wear on you?

Other question: the smell: months of recycled air, does it get rank? Or do you not notice it.
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Old 04-28-2017, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Does the lack of natural light wear on you?
No.

Though I have observed that career submariners may tend to become light sensitive and near-sighted.



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... Other question: the smell: months of recycled air, does it get rank? Or do you not notice it.
The chemicals used to maintain atmosphere leave a trace in the air. Which seeps into our clothing. We get used to it. All of my uniforms had to stay out in the garage when I got home. Wash them a dozen times and you can never get the amine smell out of them.
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Old 04-28-2017, 05:12 PM
 
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I don't think knowing how to swim would benefit a sailor on a submarine much.
It does, because we had swim calls when off the coast of Hawaii.

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Priceless observation!

But I gotta ask the submariners: Is it still a lot of work to get qualified?
I know it use to be because (caution; navy lingo follows) I went to ET"B" school at TI with a bunch of bubbleads in '66. All of them had been through Mare Island and been interrogated by Hymie himself. The stories were great, and every single one of the nukes were great guys.

Back then they made prospective submariners ascend up through a silo like device which simulated escaping from a sub. Anyway, no one got out of boot camp who could not swim.
In 1970 my brother was a civilian support crewmember the DSRV-1 Mystic back when it was operational. No swimming required for that - the DSRV was a rescue vehicle that could attach to a disabled sub and get the+ crew out without them getting wet...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSRV-1_Mystic
A person from boot goes to sub school, and besides the academics, the only physical thing was some simulator thing where you had to go into the water, then go under the water to another place to surface. Real basic, but it does weed out those with serious issues about being in water and a confined space.

The silo thing was not in use when I was going through, I doubt you could even hold a gun to my head and make me do it.

After sub school people go on to their tech schools, then to the fleet.

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Does the lack of natural light wear on you?

Other question: the smell: months of recycled air, does it get rank? Or do you not notice it.
The lack of natural light never wore on me, cannot speak for others, but I have not ever heard it brought up.

The air is fine, we have scrubbers that clean it, and often we are sticking the snorkel up and ventilating. There is a distinct smell though, but you do not notice it when emerged in it. They put amine into the air to remove the CO2. It turns everything yellow, and it leaves the smell soaked into everything. The way to combat against this is to leave dryer sheets in your civy clothes for the port call, and when back home, dump everything into a bucket with pine-sol which removes the smell as even washing it will still be slightly there.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:28 PM
 
Location: The South
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After reading about all the fun the sub guys have, I know why I ended up in the Army.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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After reading about all the fun the sub guys have, I know why I ended up in the Army.
Yeah, but it cuts both ways. I doubt they had to deal with chapping, ticks, or sunburn that often.
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:25 PM
 
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I appreciate what all of they and you guys do and did.Thank you all!
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