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Old 06-15-2017, 07:01 PM
 
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Not knowing a whole lot could someone please explain the process to me,thanks.
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Old 06-15-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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The Rank of Master Sergeant in the Marine Corps is the pay grade E-8. Pay grades for enlisted personnel go from E-1 to E-9. Many enlisted personnel retire at pay grade E-7 or even E-6. I am guessing it would take 15+ years to achieve Master Sergeant in the Marine Corps...

The process? Typically start at E-1 and continue to get promoted, usually one pay grade at a time... There are typically prommotion boards which you may appear before where it is decided if you are ready to be prommoted to the next rank. Usually you have to have completed certain goals or actions before being considered for promotion. You typically have to have a certain amount of time in the service and well as a certain amount of time in your current grade to be considered for prommotion to the next grade.

Promotions are also affected by your MOS (Military Occupation Specialty), your job.

The process can vary slightly from the five military services.

This page further explanes the rank: Marines.mil - Marine Corps Ranks


If you really want to learn more, here is the "FY17 SERGEANT MAJOR THROUGH MASTER SERGEANT STAFF NONCOMMISSIONED OFFICER (SNCO) SELECTION BOARD": http://www.marines.mil/News/Messages...-officer-snco/

Yes, it can be confusing at first, after a while it becomes more obvious how it works.

And finally, here is a complete article on the subject, Enlisted Promotions Made Simple Part 3 - Marine Corps Enlisted Promotions : https://www.thebalance.com/enlisted-...simple-3332773

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Old 06-15-2017, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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I'm a former Marine and most Marines have made it to GySgt E-7 by the time they hit 20 years. I only knew one person who made MSgt before 20. So not impossible, but pretty hard. It also depends on how critical your MOS is. E-8 and E-9 are typically made by those who plan on a 25 or 30 year career. When you're up for promotion to E-8 you also need to decide which track you want to progress on. Master Sgt and Master Gunnery Sgt is the technical track while First Sgt and Sgt Major is the administrative track.
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Old 06-16-2017, 05:24 AM
 
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One thing both P_NM and AE skirted around but didn't hit on is the structure is like a pyramid. There are an almost endless supply of E1 positions but each rank after that are limited. The higher you go up the more competitive the process and the fewer positions there are to compete for.

It is pretty obvious if you look at the structure of a battalion sized element. Of about 800 soldiers in a battalion you might find 4 Sergeants Major (E9) and one Command Sergeants Major (E9). A company consisting of about 200 soldiers will not have an E9. In fact the highest rank will be Master Sergeant (E9) and 1SG (First Sergeant). Generally there will only be 2 E8s in a company. One will be the 1SG. The other will be a "field first". but his specific duty will be more technical depending on the type of unit.
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:43 PM
 
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One thing both P_NM and AE skirted around but didn't hit on is the structure is like a pyramid. There are an almost endless supply of E1 positions but each rank after that are limited. The higher you go up the more competitive the process and the fewer positions there are to compete for.

It is pretty obvious if you look at the structure of a battalion sized element. Of about 800 soldiers in a battalion you might find 4 Sergeants Major (E9) and one Command Sergeants Major (E9). A company consisting of about 200 soldiers will not have an E9. In fact the highest rank will be Master Sergeant (E9) and 1SG (First Sergeant). Generally there will only be 2 E8s in a company. One will be the 1SG. The other will be a "field first". but his specific duty will be more technical depending on the type of unit.
It looks like there has been enlisted rank inflation since my time those numbers are double the number of Sergeants Major and First/Master Sergeants in my US Army Armored Battalion 30 years ago.
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Old 06-16-2017, 04:56 PM
 
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I made E-5 Sgt. right before my six years in the Marine Corps when I got out. That's pretty typical, I would think. 0311 MOS.
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Old 06-16-2017, 06:15 PM
 
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Thank you all ,all the information is greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-16-2017, 07:04 PM
 
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It looks like there has been enlisted rank inflation since my time those numbers are double the number of Sergeants Major and First/Master Sergeants in my US Army Armored Battalion 30 years ago.
It really depends on the type of units involved. As I posted the SGM's in BN would be the specialists in their fields. But you are right it is more like 2 SGMs in most BNs.
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Old 06-29-2017, 04:28 PM
 
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The Marine Corps has 154,348 enlisted members on active duty.
Master Sergeant/First Sergeant (E-8) - 3,306 (2.1%)
Master Gunnery Sergeant/Sergeant Major (E-9) - 1,413 (0.9%)

So "How hard is it to become a Master Sargent in the Marine Corps?". Only about 2.1% of the enlisted force are Master Sergeant/First Sergeant (E-8)

From:
Enlisted Promotions Made Simple
Part 3 - Marine Corps Enlisted Promotions
By Rod Powers
Updated October 18, 2016

The entire article is here: https://www.thebalance.com/enlisted-...simple-3332773

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Old 07-03-2017, 03:55 AM
 
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The Marine Corps has 154,348 enlisted members on active duty.
Master Sergeant/First Sergeant (E-8) - 3,306 (2.1%)
Master Gunnery Sergeant/Sergeant Major (E-9) - 1,413 (0.9%)

So "How hard is it to become a Master Sargent in the Marine Corps?". Only about 2.1% of the enlisted force are Master Sergeant/First Sergeant (E-8)

From:
Enlisted Promotions Made Simple
Part 3 - Marine Corps Enlisted Promotions
By Rod Powers
Updated October 18, 2016

The entire article is here: https://www.thebalance.com/enlisted-...simple-3332773

Thank you, it answers alot of questions.
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