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Old 08-08-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Is not kind of silly, they will promote you to officer right off the bat just because you went to college?
No. It is not silly. It is not "off the bat"... There is some work to do...
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
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The question remains is the OP ready for the academic and financial challenges of college? If not then all of the recommendations in the world urging him to attend college and enroll in NROTC aren't going to get him through college and earn his commission as a Naval Officer. If he is so be it, if not then he's wasting his time. While you "old salts" have been arguing about who makes the best officer did you notice that the OP hasn't responded since July 30th? I wonder if he's still interested in a commission or has been distracted by another shiny object?
I'm an "old salt" and proud of it.

Great point...there are many out there that would make great officers but don't have the resources or ability to attend and succeed in college right now. In that case, working at it through the enlisted ranks is a great option.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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Old 08-12-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Southwest
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Enlisted/NCO and officer in the US system should not be thought of as 'lesser' and 'greater', despite the pay difference. They are two separate tracks with two separate, but equally important, purposes. Any service would grind to a halt without NCOs; any service would grind to a halt without officers.

If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.
Enlisted have technical skills which may lead to their civilian careers. NCOs are team leaders. In my rate as a sailor goes up in pay-grade they shift from working on equipment to more time spent leading subordinates and management of personnel.

Officers are the administration of the organization. In my observation officers are under significantly more stress.

Officers may be paid more in terms of base-pay, but base-pay is often only a small portion of take-home pay and total take-home pay may be otherwise.
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Old 08-12-2017, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.

Lower enlisted are the workers and NCOs are the managers.
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:04 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.

Commissioned Officers, Pay Grades O-1 to O10
Warrant Officers, Pay Grades W-1 to W-5
Enlisted Personnel, Pay Grades E-1 to E-9

The chart below shows the ranks for all the services and the number of personnel in each rank/pay grade:
https://www.infoplease.com/us/milita...military-ranks
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Old 08-13-2017, 07:14 AM
 
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Officers may be paid more in terms of base-pay, but base-pay is often only a small portion of take-home pay and total take-home pay may be otherwise.
Officers also receive technical pay and bonuses. I'm not aware of any situation where an enlisted is going to be taking home more than an Officer with similar time in service.
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Old 08-13-2017, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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Officers also receive technical pay and bonuses. I'm not aware of any situation where an enlisted is going to be taking home more than an Officer with similar time in service.
I am certain that all O6s earn more than E6s.

I made more as an E5 than my Department Head an O4 made.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
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Officers also receive technical pay and bonuses. I'm not aware of any situation where an enlisted is going to be taking home more than an Officer with similar time in service.


Yes there are times! When I was on CV66 we went into the gulf, which at the time was a war zone. ENLISTED men got the 2 months tax free!! Officers did not.


Sure an officer for the most part has an easier life in the navy than most enlisted but I am glad I wasn't an officer. Many of them I encountered were dweebs lol
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