U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Military Life and Issues
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-08-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
22,682 posts, read 34,103,776 times
Reputation: 26282

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ Brazen_3133 View Post
Is not kind of silly, they will promote you to officer right off the bat just because you went to college?
No. It is not silly. It is not "off the bat"... There is some work to do...
__________________



Terms of Service: http://www.city-data.com/forumtos.html


Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-08-2017, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
4,275 posts, read 6,752,301 times
Reputation: 5448
Quote:
Originally Posted by irishcopper View Post
The question remains is the OP ready for the academic and financial challenges of college? If not then all of the recommendations in the world urging him to attend college and enroll in NROTC aren't going to get him through college and earn his commission as a Naval Officer. If he is so be it, if not then he's wasting his time. While you "old salts" have been arguing about who makes the best officer did you notice that the OP hasn't responded since July 30th? I wonder if he's still interested in a commission or has been distracted by another shiny object?
I'm an "old salt" and proud of it.

Great point...there are many out there that would make great officers but don't have the resources or ability to attend and succeed in college right now. In that case, working at it through the enlisted ranks is a great option.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2017, 06:51 PM
 
3,972 posts, read 3,686,977 times
Reputation: 2033
Quarter Master.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2017, 08:55 PM
 
Location: Southwest
1,167 posts, read 638,225 times
Reputation: 772
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgiaTransplant View Post
Enlisted/NCO and officer in the US system should not be thought of as 'lesser' and 'greater', despite the pay difference. They are two separate tracks with two separate, but equally important, purposes. Any service would grind to a halt without NCOs; any service would grind to a halt without officers.

If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2017, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
27,507 posts, read 43,046,095 times
Reputation: 14272
Quote:
Originally Posted by curiousgeorge5 View Post
If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.
Enlisted have technical skills which may lead to their civilian careers. NCOs are team leaders. In my rate as a sailor goes up in pay-grade they shift from working on equipment to more time spent leading subordinates and management of personnel.

Officers are the administration of the organization. In my observation officers are under significantly more stress.

Officers may be paid more in terms of base-pay, but base-pay is often only a small portion of take-home pay and total take-home pay may be otherwise.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2017, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
3,332 posts, read 1,533,441 times
Reputation: 5736
Quote:
Originally Posted by curiousgeorge5 View Post
If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.

Lower enlisted are the workers and NCOs are the managers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 07:04 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
22,682 posts, read 34,103,776 times
Reputation: 26282
Quote:
Originally Posted by curiousgeorge5 View Post
If I'm not mistaken, officers are the executives and enlisted are the workers. Isn't officer the way to go to be an executive in the service, or to be some kind of executive/professional after leaving the service?

Officers get more perks and are treated better.

Commissioned Officers, Pay Grades O-1 to O10
Warrant Officers, Pay Grades W-1 to W-5
Enlisted Personnel, Pay Grades E-1 to E-9

The chart below shows the ranks for all the services and the number of personnel in each rank/pay grade:
https://www.infoplease.com/us/milita...military-ranks
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 07:14 AM
 
1,298 posts, read 1,806,841 times
Reputation: 1257
Quote:
Originally Posted by Submariner View Post

Officers may be paid more in terms of base-pay, but base-pay is often only a small portion of take-home pay and total take-home pay may be otherwise.
Officers also receive technical pay and bonuses. I'm not aware of any situation where an enlisted is going to be taking home more than an Officer with similar time in service.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
27,507 posts, read 43,046,095 times
Reputation: 14272
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyramidsurf View Post
Officers also receive technical pay and bonuses. I'm not aware of any situation where an enlisted is going to be taking home more than an Officer with similar time in service.
I am certain that all O6s earn more than E6s.

I made more as an E5 than my Department Head an O4 made.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old Yesterday, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Fuquay Varina
3,281 posts, read 5,198,249 times
Reputation: 7195
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyramidsurf View Post
Officers also receive technical pay and bonuses. I'm not aware of any situation where an enlisted is going to be taking home more than an Officer with similar time in service.


Yes there are times! When I was on CV66 we went into the gulf, which at the time was a war zone. ENLISTED men got the 2 months tax free!! Officers did not.


Sure an officer for the most part has an easier life in the navy than most enlisted but I am glad I wasn't an officer. Many of them I encountered were dweebs lol
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $99,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Military Life and Issues
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2017, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32 - Top