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Old 10-07-2017, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Yucaipa, California
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I plan to watch the series on PBS this month.
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Old 10-07-2017, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I served 18 months in Vietnam, the show last night touched on the inability of the ARVN troops to accomplish a task, I saw that first hand. The attitude of our platoon when being attached to an ARVN outfit was, "Oh great,now we have to babysit". Their reluctance to fight cost a number of lives, couple that with their inability to learn military tactics, well, it was a disaster in the making.
VC didn't seem to have a problem with their war fighting skills, did they? Seemed to be a pretty tough enemy - or maybe willing to die at any cost?
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Old 10-16-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: KC, MO
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Exclamation Vietnam Re-Visited ....25th ID....CU CHI

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I'll start it, but I'm not sure how much I'll watch. It depends on what it stirs up in me. I served with the 25th Infantry Division in the area around Cu Chi, Tay Ninh, and Dau Tieng. ....

BigDog,

I was browsing this thread and saw your post-

I was an Army medic, 91B20 and later 91B2F when I was assigned to Eagle Dustoff.

I arrived in RVN July '70 and was assigned to the 25th ID at Cu Chi and was assigned to the 2nd/77th FA (105mm towed).

I spent time at HHB, Alpha, Bravo and Charlie batteries.

I spent a night in Dau Tieng where it was rockets all night long which I guess is why they called DT 'rocket city'.

I'm thinking we both saw Black Virgin Mountain....with tracers flying up and tracers flying down each night. Cool light show...

In December, we were recalled from the field, we spent a week or two turning in all our equipment at Long Binh, the base camp was turned over to the ARVN and the 25th went back to Hawaii.

Since I did not have ten months in, I was transferred to the 101st at Camp Eagle, I CORPS.


I finished my year, extended and spent those next six months with Eagle Dustoff.


I'm glad you made it back.


Paul...............

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Old 10-16-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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To both BigDog and HeadHunterPaul thank you for your sacrifice and your service. I am glad both of you made it home. As a child in the 60's and joining the military in the 70's I came in on the heels of what is probably the worst time for service members in how they were viewed. Yes I was kind of a mixed up kid at the time but knew some friends and older siblings of friends who went and didn't return or returned to an ungrateful nation. I saw the scorn and because I understood the sacrifice and the fact that there was no choice in the matter I felt I needed to do my duty.

I joined not expecting to make a career and even splitting it up some but I have the deepest respect and admiration to all who served and especially those who saw combat and even more those medics that treated and ran out on the battlefield to get wounded comrades. But I guess no one left a comrade on the ground if it could be helped.

God bless you both.
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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BigDog,

I was browsing this thread and saw your post-

I was an Army medic, 91B20 and later 91B2F when I was assigned to Eagle Dustoff.

I arrived in RVN July '70 and was assigned to the 25th ID at Cu Chi and was assigned to the 2nd/77th FA (105mm towed).

I spent time at HHB, Alpha, Bravo and Charlie batteries.

I spent a night in Dau Tieng where it was rockets all night long which I guess is why they called DT 'rocket city'.

I'm thinking we both saw Black Virgin Mountain....with tracers flying up and tracers flying down each night. Cool light show...

In December, we were recalled from the field, we spent a week or two turning in all our equipment at Long Binh, the base camp was turned over to the ARVN and the 25th went back to Hawaii.

Since I did not have ten months in, I was transferred to the 101st at Camp Eagle, I CORPS.


I finished my year, extended and spent those next six months with Eagle Dustoff.


I'm glad you made it back.


Paul...............

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That head band on your helmet.........I've got the same one buried in my dresser drawer.........


191st asslt helo co./162nd asslt helo co./18th aviation co..............CanTho 1971-72

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Old Today, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Between the toilet & sink
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I'll watch, and for bias also thank you very much. Vietnam was a military victory, but a political loss. Those soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines were brave, and should not have been treated the way they were by the LEFT when they got home.
I knew who to take my anti-war protest to when Iraq 2003 came along, and would have known the same if I were alive for Nam. They usually get hired/rehired in November....
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Old Today, 04:17 AM
 
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VC didn't seem to have a problem with their war fighting skills, did they? Seemed to be a pretty tough enemy - or maybe willing to die at any cost?
Most can't comprehend the abject poverty that most came from. Many didn't understand what Communism actually is. Many had little education.

And note. Parts of the country have been fighting since the 1930's. Japan, English, French, and US. And historically - China.

Massive amounts of ammunition came from China and Russia. The US would have "won" all of this if there was no support from Russia and China.

This was a struggle between capitalism and Communism. Guess who ultimately won?

As a footnote. After Japan surrendered. The British were the first Allied troops to enter Vietnam. To control the cities the British activated the surrendered Japanese soldiers to patrol the streets and keep order.
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Old Today, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Most can't comprehend the abject poverty that most came from. Many didn't understand what Communism actually is. Many had little education.

And note. Parts of the country have been fighting since the 1930's. Japan, English, French, and US. And historically - China.

Massive amounts of ammunition came from China and Russia. The US would have "won" all of this if there was no support from Russia and China.

This was a struggle between capitalism and Communism. Guess who ultimately won?


As a footnote. After Japan surrendered. The British were the first Allied troops to enter Vietnam. To control the cities the British activated the surrendered Japanese soldiers to patrol the streets and keep order.
Is the fight over?
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Old Today, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Most can't comprehend the abject poverty that most came from. Many didn't understand what Communism actually is. Many had little education.

And note. Parts of the country have been fighting since the 1930's. Japan, English, French, and US. And historically - China.

Massive amounts of ammunition came from China and Russia. The US would have "won" all of this if there was no support from Russia and China.

This was a struggle between capitalism and Communism. Guess who ultimately won?

As a footnote. After Japan surrendered. The British were the first Allied troops to enter Vietnam. To control the cities the British activated the surrendered Japanese soldiers to patrol the streets and keep order.
I spent quite some time around Tay Ninh northwest of Saigon, mostly agricultural with little huts and dirt floors. They were extremely poor but hard working and very happy with their lives. I don't think they understood the difference between communism, socialism or democracy nor did they care, they just wanted to be left alone.
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Old Today, 07:06 AM
 
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Is the fight over?
Yes. It is dead.

The ones left are simply dictatorships. Or one party systems. Toss in a military junta here and there.

Having visited Vietnam 3 times. Looks darn close to capitalism.
Heineken is the number one beer in Vietnam - both north and south.
There are 3 Ford dealerships in Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City).
Hilton and Marriott high rise hotels. And on and on.

The Vietnamese love and adore Americans.
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