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Old 09-15-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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The same reasons police procedurals are 99% about elite homicide detectives, and not beat cops, school resource officers, traffic cops, etc.
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Old 09-15-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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Not sure about the others, but the Tom Hanks team in Saving Private Ryan were Army Rangers.
I touched on it earlier Army Rangers both those who qualified in school and those in a Ranger unit tend to be in a grey area among military history observers. However are favored for your military or veteran character in Hollywood. Marine Scout Snipers as seen in the movie Jarhead also live in that grey area since before 2006 Marine units technically were not part of the US Special Operations Command.

Hence you get debates like I was just having about Vulture Team on The Last Ship TV show were BUDS and Ranger Schools no longer exists. But more intense because we are talking about actual soldiers and Marines and if we should call them elite or are they guilty of stealing valour from SEALS and Special Forces Qualification course graduates.
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Old 09-15-2017, 02:47 PM
 
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How many movies about REAL life have you seen to start with?
Maybe somewhere in the dark corners unknown to any they do exist. Otherwise, what you see on the screen and what you see in life is two huge differences.
So why expect something different for military movies?
Example just came to mind. Erich Maria remark has a great book - No changes on Western front.
The very first line of it goes like this:
We were squatting in tranches conversing about pooping and peeing. What else will a bunch of 16 year old talk about in the tranches?

Something along those lines. That is reality of life. Can't make movie off it, unless it's a comedy and then - well, you know. The other opposite.

Also, have you noticed actual proliferation of war movies, patriotic movies, etc? Building up patriotism and "I want to be a soldier" mentality. So you have to show heroes. How kewl it is to be in militaries. So it's either unrealistic feat of Ops or stealing millions.

I am more surprised that you are surprised, OP. Hollywood is Factory ofDdreams, not Factory of How to Be a Human.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:34 PM
 
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The same reasons police procedurals are 99% about elite homicide detectives, and not beat cops, school resource officers, traffic cops, etc.
Although Hill Street Blues had some good stories about beat cops.
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Old 09-15-2017, 05:45 PM
 
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Although Hill Street Blues had some good stories about beat cops.
Speaking of beat cops and the elite bias on Adam -12 when Jack Webb introduced the world to elite SWAT the episode started with beat cops Malloy and Reed still on probation evacuating the building. Come back from commercial and the boot, Reed is putting on the coveralls and patrol cap and drawing a M16 from the SWAT Lieutenant as he was SWAT before passing probation
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Old 09-15-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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Its about the money - we give the consumers what they want.
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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Is it just me, or do movie and TV producers/directors seem rather fixated on nothing but military Special Ops such as Navy SEALs or Army Delta?

Don't get me wrong, those guys are second to none and are true bad arses and warriors and this isn't meant as a slight to them in the least.

But why does Hollywood seem to feature only them, and never military members in 'lesser' roles? This Fall there's supposed to be no less than three TV military themed series featuring Navy SEALs and Spec Ops as the main characters.

Same thing with movies. It's also come to the point that whenever you have any movie character with a military background, it has to have been as a former Green Beret, a SEAL, MARSOC, Army Ranger, etc. etc.

Is there something wrong with cooks or vehicle mechanics as an example?

I was in the Navy for six years as a machinist mate. Is that not good enough for Hollywood?

One of my most favorite movies is the 1973 classic, "The Last Detail." It's a rather mundane on the surface story about two Navy lifers escorting a young offender to serve serious time for theft. Yet, it is also one of the funniest movies I have ever seen, and many Navy vets can relate to the characters, the way they talk, the situations they get in, etc. Not an explosion or gunfight in sight, yet no less an absorbing movie.

Anyone else feel this way?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsw_a8jYm5g
Love "The Last Detail"!!!

There have been series about non-Seal type military before but that is just what is in the news
They let the news advertise for them with similar subject matter--

You had Jag and you have Mark Harmon's NCIS that is one of the longest running series in tv history now
There was recent show about undercover OP's team and their families--didn't watch it --can't remember the name
There used to be a series about a Marine officer I think--can't remember the name but remember the opening where it showed the marine dress blues with a ceremonial sword...

I think a show about cooks or mechanics would be comedy not drama but doesn't mean it couldn't work
You had MASH which was medical corps and Gomer Pyle about general Marine life
Sgt Bilko was early 50s comedy

Personally I think they are missing a bet not to have a Coast Guard show
Those guys are into rescues, drug busting, modern day pirates....they cover it all and it could go serious one show and comedy the next...
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:38 PM
 
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Apparently back then sailors had to go ashore, and fight.
That was a special mission because only the navy was in vicinity to evac missionaries--
No US Army troops were allowed in that area
And all sailors take marksmanship training in basic I believe
They just have marines on the ships to do the small arms gunfire
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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Although Hill Street Blues had some good stories about beat cops.
Did you see the show SouthLAnd--about beat cops and detectives in LA
I loved that show---was only on for few seasons and had interrupted history and changed channels at one point I think
Great cast and writing----was so sorry to see it go down...
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Old 09-15-2017, 07:44 PM
 
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How many movies about REAL life have you seen to start with?
Maybe somewhere in the dark corners unknown to any they do exist. Otherwise, what you see on the screen and what you see in life is two huge differences.
So why expect something different for military movies?
Example just came to mind. Erich Maria remark has a great book - No changes on Western front.
The very first line of it goes like this:
We were squatting in tranches conversing about pooping and peeing. What else will a bunch of 16 year old talk about in the tranches?

Something along those lines. That is reality of life. Can't make movie off it, unless it's a comedy and then - well, you know. The other opposite.

Also, have you noticed actual proliferation of war movies, patriotic movies, etc? Building up patriotism and "I want to be a soldier" mentality. So you have to show heroes. How kewl it is to be in militaries. So it's either unrealistic feat of Ops or stealing millions.

I am more surprised that you are surprised, OP. Hollywood is Factory ofDdreams, not Factory of How to Be a Human.
I get typos too---but All Quiet on the Western Front
And it has been made into movie several times...
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