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Old 10-06-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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I am sure your former military, like me. That is not "getting out in front" when you add in all the cameras and news. Sorry it was grandstanding and showboating.
he had an audience in the White House that he did that for....these are the types of issues that gets a General Officer relieved of command he damn better get out in front of everyone and lead the way and not leave it to his underlings alone to snuff this problem out.
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Old 10-06-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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It's just as likely this is a hoax.
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Old 10-06-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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It's more than likely this is a hoax.

My version.
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Old 10-06-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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It's just as likely this is a hoax.
could be - would you just have ignored that it actually happened? would you have punished those who reported it? I can tell you those two courses of action would probably backfire on you.....
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Old 10-06-2017, 04:50 PM
 
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could be - would you just have ignored that it actually happened? would you have punished those who reported it? I can tell you those two courses of action would probably backfire on you.....

No. I would have done what the general did.
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Old 11-09-2017, 03:56 AM
 
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Update. Go to CNN for the update. Turns out a black student wrote the remarks. Now the general needs to provide a grand stand apology.
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Old 11-09-2017, 04:17 AM
 
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Update. Go to CNN for the update. Turns out a black student wrote the remarks. Now the general needs to provide a grand stand apology.
Yep.

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But on Tuesday, Air Force Academy officials said that one of the black cadet candidates actually wrote the racist messages.

"We can confirm that one of the cadet candidates who was allegedly targeted by racist remarks written outside their dorm room was actually responsible for the act," the Academy said in a written statement. "The individual admitted responsibility and this was validated by the investigation."

The vandalism was written in black marker and said "Go home" with the N-word, according to CNN affiliate KRDO.
Lt. Col. Allen Herritage, director of public affairs with the Academy, said that the cadet responsible admitted his guilt when confronted.
Racist graffiti at Air Force Academy: A black cadet wrote it - CNN
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Old 11-09-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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No apology needed--the sentiment and intent are true.

But the guy who did it should get the same penalty, regardless of race.
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Old 11-09-2017, 10:22 AM
 
Location: SC
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No, no apology is needed from the General. What he said is no less true today. He didn't accuse EVERY cadet of being a racist, he just pointed out to those who are that it is unacceptable.

However. The student who made the false accusations needs to be identified. He needs to stand up to the Academy and to the public in general and explain himself. It is bad enough that the everyday racist actions of some people get swept under the rug. It is worst that the student has now fed into the false narrative that there is no racism - and that so many of the claims are false. He has done both the non-black and especially the black community a huge disservice and should be called on it.

He "cried wolf" and needs to publicly account for himself.

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Old 11-09-2017, 01:46 PM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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I am very jaded about all these racist graffiti and vandalism, nooses, etc. but I don't think the General needs to apologize one iota for his speech or its content. Everything he said was true and valid regardless of the veracity of the incident that precipitated it.

However, I think our leaders need to look at incidents like this far closer before jumping to conclusions and placing blame.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf is getting awfully hoarse.
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