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Old 10-24-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Central New Jersey
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Though every instance is unique, I dunno if they'd wanna see this particular soldiers body after being exposed for 2 days and god only knows the trauma his body endured causing his death

 
Old 10-24-2017, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Cape Coral Fl /Randolph NJ
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There are some answers to our questions in the article below. The physical work done on the body starts about half way through the article.

"Inside the Return of America's Fallen at Dover Air Force Base"

Esquire Magazine

Dover Air Force Base Funeral Process - How Soldiers Return to Dover
I finished the article through tears. It seems apparent they are very adept at identifying the remains.
The whole process is very dignified, much praise for the people who do this, a very difficult task to say the least.
 
Old 10-24-2017, 11:35 AM
 
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I finished the article through tears. It seems apparent they are very adept at identifying the remains.
The whole process is very dignified, much praise for the people who do this, a very difficult task to say the least.
Then you really need to see this:https://www.hbo.com/movies/taking-chance
 
Old 10-24-2017, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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My last assignment the home unit 2nd SCR lost over 20 Soldiers in OIF. I can't imagine the Army providing open caskets for all of them. IED losses mostly. Speaking of which, the each of them deserved the same respect that SGT Johnson received. That a single Soldier is getting so much attention has got me confused. No one Soldier is more or less important in my eyes.

Why?
 
Old 10-24-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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My last assignment the home unit 2nd SCR lost over 20 Soldiers in OIF. I can't imagine the Army providing open caskets for all of them. IED losses mostly. Speaking of which, the each of them deserved the same respect that SGT Johnson received. That a single Soldier is getting so much attention has got me confused. No one Soldier is more or less important in my eyes.

Why?
Each of them got the same military respect SGT Johnson has received. The only difference has been media focus, and that can happen as a result of varying different aspects not related to anything the military is doing with regard to the death.
 
Old 10-24-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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I finished the article through tears. It seems apparent they are very adept at identifying the remains.
The whole process is very dignified, much praise for the people who do this, a very difficult task to say the least.
It is a very in depth article. But it answered quite a few questions for me.

In 1966 or 67 I got to Saigon and looked up a neighbor who was embalming for the federal government. Wished I hadn't. Anyway apparently now they bring all into Dover to do the embalming.
 
Old 10-24-2017, 02:47 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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From articles I've read, it sounded like none of the military caskets were ever allowed to be opened. That seemed strange to me. I know many folks don't come back looking like they left. but what if someone just had a plain old heart attack. Is it because they're not embalmed and have been sitting in a casket for days? Doesn't seem like they come back super fast - like the next day. I know a lot of folks are sent to our base in Germany before being brought stateside to Dover. Do they leave Germany immediately or is there time in between?

The whole situation with SGT Johnson is tragic. I feel for his poor family and the other soldiers lost that day.
 
Old 10-24-2017, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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My last assignment the home unit 2nd SCR lost over 20 Soldiers in OIF. I can't imagine the Army providing open caskets for all of them. IED losses mostly. Speaking of which, the each of them deserved the same respect that SGT Johnson received. That a single Soldier is getting so much attention has got me confused. No one Soldier is more or less important in my eyes.

Why?
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Each of them got the same military respect SGT Johnson has received. The only difference has been media focus, and that can happen as a result of varying different aspects not related to anything the military is doing with regard to the death.
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This brings me to another point about some lady who went on to FB to moan about being too much of a coward to stand up and sing the national anthem as a service member's casket was either brought on or off the flight she was on. A lot of my friends thought this was so important to send to me to make this video go viral.

To me this is not only unnecessary but too much over the top. What should happen each time this occurs is that passengers should stand quietly and reverently as this is going on. No one should be singing or reciting the "Pledge". A salute by current and former military members is good but honestly folks let the solemn occasion pass without bringing attention to yourself if you are not NOK. Even the service members tasked with the duty, do it with the utmost respect and reverence.

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Old 10-24-2017, 03:11 PM
 
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Something is wrong if a grown woman wants to see inside the casket and they wont allow it. Why isn't that her choice? This is terrible. Obviously she wants to make sure that he is inside that casket and I find it cruel not to let her or a family member see the body.
 
Old 10-24-2017, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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To me this is not only unnecessary but too much over the top. What should happen each time this occurs is that passengers should stand quietly and reverently as this is going on. No one should be singing or reciting the "Pledge". A salute by current and former military members is good but honestly folks let the solemn occasion pass without bringing attention to yourself if you are not NOK. Even the service members tasked with the duty, do it with the utmost respect and reverence.
What is NOK? I keep seeing it on this thread!
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