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Old 01-03-2018, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Delaware County, PA
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I think dropping the mental health standard may have to do with boosting their numbers for a possible near future invasion of some country, most likely North Korea. Gotta get those recruitment numbers up somehow! With the Army dropping their standards quite a bit, what could go wrong?
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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This is bad news! But it only means that they can "request" a waiver. Got to contact my son and tell him to retire ASAP, I know he is very near within a couple of years of being able to retire. Some of the people enlisting now are enough of a hazard, why go the extra mile to make our troops more unsafe?
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Old 01-03-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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All,
Please understand how hard it is to get in. Right now, if a kid is hyper in school and mom puts him on ADHD medications during elementary, he can't get into the military in many cases. Often, these aren't kids with REAL problems, just kids who were being stimulated incorrectly and later grew out of it. If a 13 year old girl starts her period for the first time, gets moody, and dad takes her to shrink who diagnosis adjustment disorder after 15 minutes of talking, she can never serve in the military. Many times, SHORT TERM, weak childhood diagnoses keep people from serving under current rules, even though they've outgrown their issues and been successful adults, they still can't get in. If a normal girl succumbs to peer pressure and cuts her arm a few times with friends, permanently disqualified for life from the military for self-mutilatin, even if there was no underlying condition. These are the people we are letting in now. We're not opening up the doors to people currently on bi-polar meds or schizophrenics.
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Old 01-03-2018, 09:30 PM
 
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Just like Vietnam the military needs cannon fodder for the war.
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Old 01-03-2018, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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All,
Please understand how hard it is to get in. Right now, if a kid is hyper in school and mom puts him on ADHD medications during elementary, he can't get into the military in many cases. Often, these aren't kids with REAL problems, just kids who were being stimulated incorrectly and later grew out of it. If a 13 year old girl starts her period for the first time, gets moody, and dad takes her to shrink who diagnosis adjustment disorder after 15 minutes of talking, she can never serve in the military. Many times, SHORT TERM, weak childhood diagnoses keep people from serving under current rules, even though they've outgrown their issues and been successful adults, they still can't get in. If a normal girl succumbs to peer pressure and cuts her arm a few times with friends, permanently disqualified for life from the military for self-mutilatin, even if there was no underlying condition. These are the people we are letting in now. We're not opening up the doors to people currently on bi-polar meds or schizophrenics.
But let's bring in a population with huge mental issues and a 41 percent rate of attempting suicide. What could possibly go wrong?!
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Old 01-04-2018, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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All,
Please understand how hard it is to get in. Right now, if a kid is hyper in school and mom puts him on ADHD medications during elementary, he can't get into the military in many cases. Often, these aren't kids with REAL problems, just kids who were being stimulated incorrectly and later grew out of it. If a 13 year old girl starts her period for the first time, gets moody, and dad takes her to shrink who diagnosis adjustment disorder after 15 minutes of talking, she can never serve in the military. Many times, SHORT TERM, weak childhood diagnoses keep people from serving under current rules, even though they've outgrown their issues and been successful adults, they still can't get in. If a normal girl succumbs to peer pressure and cuts her arm a few times with friends, permanently disqualified for life from the military for self-mutilatin, even if there was no underlying condition. These are the people we are letting in now. We're not opening up the doors to people currently on bi-polar meds or schizophrenics.
Bold,

Research has shown there is no known cure for bipolar disorder, but symptoms can be managed with a combination of psychiatric medication and psychotherapy. Long-term effects can be minimized through treatment, especially when they are caught early on.

So there is no such a thing as "I was diagnosed with bipolar when I was 18 years old, but now that I am 24, my bipolar is cured."

Their "symptoms" can be MANAGED, but there is no cure.

Here is another interesting fact about bipolar,

Unfortunately, due to the troubling side effects from the medications used to treat the disorder, many people stop taking their meds without letting their doctors know, which leads to relapse.


Due to the severe and chronic nature of the symptoms and the side effects and special laboratory monitoring of the medications, troops diagnosed with bipolar disorder generally are considered unfit for duty and are medically retired from service.

One cruel aspect of bipolar disorder is its potential lethality — up to half of affected individuals will attempt suicide, and about 15 percent will succeed.

Unfortunately, due to the troubling side effects from the medications used to treat the disorder, many people stop taking their meds without letting their doctors know, which leads to relapse.

Just because somebody stopped taking meds, doesnt mean their bipolar is cured, there is no known cure. It's a chronic illness. Show me a person whose bipolar disorder has been cured. There is no such a person.

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Old 01-04-2018, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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Wonderful.
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:14 AM
 
Location: The end of the world
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This is old news. They know a bunch of people will leave the military with some form of PTSD along with disabilities. So why not just invite a bunch of people with issues already.

Also forget the eating disorders think about disorderly families. When you have service men from loving supportive families with multiple siblings it is far easier to join. Many people join the military as a temporary exit out of poverty stricken and inhuman conditions but what happens afterwards? Where do they go? The VA?? or actually off to start a business or college education.

I have seen all types of people who have exited the military but only a few actually are able to return to convert into society and lead normal lives. I have seen the convergence from being apart of something to being apart of nothing. I have seen some dude from the Marines who was interviewed, to become a police officer, only to proudly dawn the green again. To the person who did all the right things only to be turned down from every job offer. To the girlfriend leaving him, to his father throwing him out for nothing. I have even seen the military-mom who talks big about the military encouraging people the join. Yet they have no family, no spouse, no children to come home to.
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Old 01-08-2018, 02:50 PM
 
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They won't even make it past basic training. It's a scam.

They will be out with a 100% disability. Scam.
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Old 01-14-2018, 12:16 AM
 
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It is sad to hear they are doing this. But, I guess they need to.
It is sadder to hear when people are forced economically to go into the military. Why shouldn't the military have to compete for people with significantly better pay and benefits and most notably better contracts.

Why is it a bad thing that they now have to compete to get quality people?

The military does not have to accept nut jobs, they have to offer better contracts. You sign up for X you get X and if you wash out or there is some snafu you go home and thats that, unless YOU as the recruit decide to pick another MOS.
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