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Old 11-12-2017, 03:08 PM
 
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You gotta do what you gotta do I suppose when you need the bodies.

Even though it may be a small percentage of the recruiting pool, still, it does raise some legitimate concerns. I think certain MOS' should be off limits, period, to those that get in with a mental history waiver, particularly combat arms as seen in the Bergdahl case.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ar...ob-fb-enus-280

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People with a history of “self-mutilation,” bipolar disorder, depression and drug and alcohol abuse can now seek waivers to join the Army under an unannounced policy enacted in August, according to documents obtained by USA TODAY.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:01 PM
 
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Well, sounds like they are gearing up for something. Lowering standards like this is probably not a good sign.
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Old 11-13-2017, 07:51 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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News article missed the mark on recruiting mission

By MG Jeffrey J. Snow
Commanding General, U.S. Army Recruiting Command,
October 11, 2017

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If you have read the Oct. 10 USA Today article titled "Army is accepting more low-quality recruits, giving waivers for marijuana to hit targets," you may be inclined to think the Army is lowering its standards as its need for additional Soldiers increases.

As the commanding general for U.S. Army Recruiting, I am here to tell you, we have not. In fact, quality is a priority for us, just as it is for Army leadership. Our recruiters exceeded all Department of Defense quality benchmarks in fiscal 2017, despite receiving the largest in-year mission increase in the history of the all-volunteer force in January. This was an incredible challenge for our team of 9,000 recruiters stationed across the country and its territories. I am proud of them.
Entire usarec.army.mil Article, with some interesting facts: United States Army Recruiting Command (USAREC) - News article missed the mark on recruiting mission

The "USA Today" article provided no references of where their information really came from... "according to documents obtained by USA TODAY." is pretty lame and vague...

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Old 11-13-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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Some branches are not meeting mission. Record low unemployment rates will do that to us. In my state, our Army Guard is having an extremely difficult time.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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It is sad to hear they are doing this. But, I guess they need to.
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Old 11-13-2017, 08:41 PM
 
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I may be reading way too much into this since I've never worked in recruitment, but I'm under the impression that there are three parts to qualifications. First is you have nothing disqualifying and can be accepted. The second is you have something that is absolutely disqualifying and you wont be accepted. Leaving the third to be you have something that can be waivered which means they may accept you. I may be way off base with this but I don't think it means anything but a person with those conditions can now request a waiver, but nothing says the branch must approve the waiver. I hope one of the recruiters steps in any straightens out misguided common sense thinking on this.
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Old 12-04-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Army drops plans to give waivers to recruits with history of mental illness
By Lucas Tomlinson | Fox News
November 15th, 2017

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Army Chief of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told reporters the memo was "unauthorized" and its author did not have the authority to change the Army's recruitment policy.

"It was rescinded last night," Milley said of the memo, which was dated Sept. 7 of this year and initially reported by USA Today on Sunday.

"There wasn’t a change in policy," Milley added. "There cannot be a change in policy by someone who doesn’t have the authority to change policy. I know it sounds circular."

According to the memo, potential recruits with a history of self-mutilation, bipolar disorder, and drug and alcohol abuse would be eligible to obtain waivers to join the Army.

"For all waivers," the memo specified, "the burden of proof is on the applicant to provide a clear and meritorious case for why a waiver should be considered."
ARTICLE AT: Army drops plans to give waivers to recruits with history of mental illness | Fox News
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Old 12-04-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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The real problem>[QUOTE
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(CBS News) Is obesity America's greatest threat to national security?
A group of retired military leaders seem to think so, given 27 percent of 17 to 24-year-olds in the United States are too fat to serve in the military. That's 9 million potential recruits.
In their new report dubbed "Too Fat to Fight," the nonpartisan group of 100 retired generals and admirals known as Mission: Readiness calls on the U.S. government to reduce the amount of junk foods available at schools in favor of healthier options.
"Being overweight or obese turns out to be the leading medical reason why applicants fail to qualify for military service," the group says in the report. "Today, otherwise excellent recruit prospects, some of them with generations of sterling military service in their family history, are being turned away because they are just too overweight."
More than one-third of U.S. adults -- 35.7 percent -- are obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Citing Department of Defense data that 75 percent of young Americans can't join the military because they did not graduate from high school, have criminal records or are physically unfit, the group of retired military leaders has set their sights on combating obesity.
Between 1995 and 2008, the military had 140,000 individuals who showed up at recruiting centers but failed their entrance physicals because of their weight, the report said.
Teaching healthy habits starts in childhood, the leaders note, so a properly managed school environment could help foster a lifetime of healthy eating habits.
They want Congress to pass new child nutrition legislation that bars junk food from schools, increases funding to improve the nutrition and quality of school meals and provides children better access to programs that promote health.
The authors said school stores or canteens, vending machines and a la carte foods sold on lunch lines are areas of focus to make healthier. They are asking Congress to give the Secretary of the USDA power to implement healthier standards.
"The folks that are going to enter the military in 2025 are in school right now," Retired Air Force Lieutenant General Norman Seip told Reuters. "So it's up to us to ensure that when those children reach the age of between 17 and 24 that they are ready or eligible to join the military."][/quote]
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Old 01-02-2018, 06:29 AM
 
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"The folks that are going to enter the military in 2025 are in school right now," Retired Air Force Lieutenant General Norman Seip told Reuters. "So it's up to us to ensure that when those children reach the age of between 17 and 24 that they are ready or eligible to join the military."]
Who exactly is "us"?
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Old 01-03-2018, 08:29 AM
 
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Who exactly is "us"?
That panel of Generals and Admirals mentioned earlier. They actually want laws requiring that young people "eat right." I guess they feel the need for attention....?


They got into this mess by simply lowering of what had always been considered perfectly good normal healthy weight limits. Poof! Lots of formerly normal people now "overweight." Add a few pounds to the top of those limits and at least half the problem goes away. No. They want to keep out Chubby and hire the mentally afflicted instead. Man, that's leadership!
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