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Old Yesterday, 10:36 PM
 
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You made my case for me.

There is a successor on each of the lines. If the President removes the SoD for refusing to concur on a nuclear deployment, the SOD's successor steps in and if that person refuses, guess what, they can also be fired and the next successor steps in. This can go on and on until he President finds someone next in line to concur with the use of nuclear weapons. The command to launch those weapons can not be made without both lines agreeing. This is the two-man policy.
No. There doesn't have to be anyone but the ranking NCA. The NCA does not need the concurrence of anyone else. And the NCA may not be the president. Everyone else says "yes sir"--unless the order is illegal under the LOAC.
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Old Yesterday, 11:08 PM
 
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No. There doesn't have to be anyone but the ranking NCA. The NCA does not need the concurrence of anyone else. And the NCA may not be the president. Everyone else says "yes sir"--unless the order is illegal under the LOAC.
I really have no idea what your talking about with all this "book speak" of yours. To launch nuclear weapons, only the President of the United States can authorize it. That authorization alone is not enough for the military to actually launch the weapons as the President does not have ability to directly provide launch authority. That comes through he Secretary of Defense as part of the two man policy. Once the President authorizes use of nuclear weapons, the SoD will order the actual launch by verifying the order is from the legal authority. The SoD can't decide they disagrees, but they can certainly withhold authentication. Likewise, military leaders can refuse to go along if they feel it's an illegal order. In the event anyone one in the Executive line is incapacitated, their successor assumes control. The same goes for the Defense line. The NCA for use of nuclear weapons is two lines regardless who is top dog at the time. Remember, the subject matter of this topic is Nuclear not any combat ops.

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Old Yesterday, 11:17 PM
 
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that general knows better and should retire. He's stirring an empty pot. In all likelihood he'd never know it was about to happen unless he's a member of the joint chief of staff... in an advisory roll to the president... at that level I would hope he'd be honest and forthright with the president. or step aside
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Old Today, 09:23 AM
 
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I really have no idea what your talking about with all this "book speak" of yours. To launch nuclear weapons, only the President of the United States can authorize it. That authorization alone is not enough for the military to actually launch the weapons as the President does not have ability to directly provide launch authority. That comes through he Secretary of Defense as part of the two man policy. Once the President authorizes use of nuclear weapons, the SoD will order the actual launch by verifying the order is from the legal authority. The SoD can't decide they disagrees, but they can certainly withhold authentication. Likewise, military leaders can refuse to go along if they feel it's an illegal order. In the event anyone one in the Executive line is incapacitated, their successor assumes control. The same goes for the Defense line. The NCA for use of nuclear weapons is two lines regardless who is top dog at the time. Remember, the subject matter of this topic is Nuclear not any combat ops.
You're not correct, but the people who have to operate the system understand, so I'm not concerned if you ever understand or not.
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