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Old 11-30-2017, 05:59 AM
 
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For those of you that sadly have a relative who was lost and still listed as missing during any of the wars the USA has participated in, do you honor this person differently than a war casualty whose grave one may visit?
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Old 11-30-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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I don't visit graves. My mother dragged me along every time she went to see her mother and father and other relatives, so I just don't do it. I went once to see my Mom, Dad and husband shortly after they died and feel no compulsion to go back.

In answer to your question though, my cousin Malcomb has been MIA since WWII. Nobody, as far as I knew, considered him dead. His big brother, Richard, WAS KIA and my aunt and uncle did have a grave to go visit. Richard was talked about in the past tense, so was Malcomb, but it was different. You knew you would never see or talk to Richard but there was always a glimmer of hope when speaking about Malcomb. Even 50, 60 years later, my parents used to talk like he could be found alive and he was living in the jungle with a Philippino wife. Even if they had stopped believing, it was always "in passing" that they mentioned that he was probably dead.

I never met Malcomb, Richard (my mom's cousins), my dad's parents either but they were alive in my heart and brain as if in the flesh. They still are actually. Just like Mom, Dad and husband are still alive to me. Just in a different way.
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Old 11-30-2017, 10:23 AM
 
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I don't visit graves. My mother dragged me along every time she went to see her mother and father and other relatives, so I just don't do it. I went once to see my Mom, Dad and husband shortly after they died and feel no compulsion to go back.

In answer to your question though, my cousin Malcomb has been MIA since WWII. Nobody, as far as I knew, considered him dead. His big brother, Richard, WAS KIA and my aunt and uncle did have a grave to go visit. Richard was talked about in the past tense, so was Malcomb, but it was different. You knew you would never see or talk to Richard but there was always a glimmer of hope when speaking about Malcomb. Even 50, 60 years later, my parents used to talk like he could be found alive and he was living in the jungle with a Philippino wife. Even if they had stopped believing, it was always "in passing" that they mentioned that he was probably dead.

I never met Malcomb, Richard (my mom's cousins), my dad's parents either but they were alive in my heart and brain as if in the flesh. They still are actually. Just like Mom, Dad and husband are still alive to me. Just in a different way.
Wow, that was intense and deep; are you a writer or something? (I am not being sarcastic)
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Old 11-30-2017, 03:42 PM
 
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I don't visit graves. My mother dragged me along every time she went to see her mother and father and other relatives, so I just don't do it. I went once to see my Mom, Dad and husband shortly after they died and feel no compulsion to go back.

In answer to your question though, my cousin Malcomb has been MIA since WWII. Nobody, as far as I knew, considered him dead. His big brother, Richard, WAS KIA and my aunt and uncle did have a grave to go visit. Richard was talked about in the past tense, so was Malcomb, but it was different. You knew you would never see or talk to Richard but there was always a glimmer of hope when speaking about Malcomb. Even 50, 60 years later, my parents used to talk like he could be found alive and he was living in the jungle with a Philippino wife. Even if they had stopped believing, it was always "in passing" that they mentioned that he was probably dead.

I never met Malcomb, Richard (my mom's cousins), my dad's parents either but they were alive in my heart and brain as if in the flesh. They still are actually. Just like Mom, Dad and husband are still alive to me. Just in a different way.
Was your cousin Malcomb a POW in the Philippines during WW2?
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Old 11-30-2017, 04:26 PM
 
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Do they continue to pay what or whomever in the case of a MIA?
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Old 12-01-2017, 06:11 AM
 
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Do they continue to pay what or whomever in the case of a MIA?
I don't know. But a better question is are there pension benefits of any kind and if there is back pay who does it go to if the person was single and his parents and siblings are all deceased but he has several nieces & nephews (or grand-nieces/nephews)? Also if the person's remains are eventually identified (due to new DNA technology which wasn't available at the time of them going MIA), does the military pay for a military funeral or reinternment expenses?
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Old 12-01-2017, 07:30 AM
 
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Basically the US DOD updates the status yearly to see if the service member remains MIA and thus his family receives pay and he is promoted with his peers or he is presumed dead.
CHAPTER 34
DoD 7000.14-R
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Old 12-01-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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Wow, that was intense and deep; are you a writer or something? (I am not being sarcastic)
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Was your cousin Malcomb a POW in the Philippines during WW2?
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I don't know. But a better question is are there pension benefits of any kind and if there is back pay who does it go to if the person was single and his parents and siblings are all deceased but he has several nieces & nephews (or grand-nieces/nephews)? Also if the person's remains are eventually identified (due to new DNA technology which wasn't available at the time of them going MIA), does the military pay for a military funeral or reinternment expenses?
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Basically the US DOD updates the status yearly to see if the service member remains MIA and thus his family receives pay and he is promoted with his peers or he is presumed dead.
CHAPTER 34
DoD 7000.14-R
Lol, thanks, boxes, no, I just wrote that from my heart.

No, Chava, he was a Col. in the USAF and piloting a Red Cross plane over the Philippines and the Japenese shot his plane down. Neither he nor any of his crew were found. That big red cross was meant as a target you know. No traces of any of them were found. My dad was over in the Philippines in the Navy and he told us that the jungles were so much and so thick, that he wasn't surprised that none of them were ever found. Not even the plane!!! Remember that Japenese soldier they found in a cave who thought the war was still going on? I thought about Malcolmb doing that too!!!

IDK anything about benefits. I wasn't born until 1953 but "knew" Malcomb from my family talking about him.

Malcomb has been classified as KIA now.
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