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Old 02-13-2018, 09:01 PM
 
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Can I serve active duty while getting and undergrad degree at the same time. Any options that you know would Ben helpful thanks
Sure. I have a few buddies who i prodded into going to college. One is a CPO, one is a LC and the other is a gunny. All are going to school working on BAchelors degrees
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Old 02-13-2018, 09:19 PM
 
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This. Free testing too.

It is possible for a few accredited colleges in the US to meet nearly all business degree requirements through testing. Excelsior College is one.

If you have solid Spanish, German or French language skills you can get up to 12 credits in a single CLEP.
Ha ha! That's ME! Even the Spanish credits. And I had only 2 yrs pf high school Spanish. I actually got a bachelors degree in two fields. At the time they accepted Graduate Record Exams as upper division credits. I wish I had known about Excelsior and the others earlier.
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Old 02-14-2018, 12:43 AM
 
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There's also the CLEP and DANTES exams which cover quite a bit of the liberal arts portion of many degrees. Military members frequently get work experience credit as well. Of course, this depends on their program and job.

Excelsior College has a major department just for military degrees. You must be an active military member to enroll in those programs. You can earn a BS in nuclear engineering. A good port of the lower level coursework is covered by military work experience credit. Even a portion of the upper levels are covered by military work experience. Military life isn't the same as civilian life.
How is this possible when you have courses like calc 1, 2, 3 differenetial equations, statics, organic chemistry, physical chemistry and on and on. Are you learning the in depth details about these subjects during military training? These courses were brutal and had a high rate of failure for people accepted into top tier schools, I could not imagine buying a physical chemistry book and just reading it and taking a test, if you can do that then you should be in a PhD program and working at los alamos.

Then if you want to get into upper division your talking about process controls, optics, heat transfer, fluids, thermodynamics, advanced organic, finite element analysis, etc, etc. Depending on your flavor of engineering of course.

As I said before out of 130 credits we had 9 credits of liberal arts, are these nuclear engineering courses ABET accredited? Something is not adding up.
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Old 02-14-2018, 07:04 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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How is this possible when you have courses like calc 1, 2, 3 differenetial equations, statics, organic chemistry, physical chemistry and on and on. Are you learning the in depth details about these subjects during military training? These courses were brutal and had a high rate of failure for people accepted into top tier schools, I could not imagine buying a physical chemistry book and just reading it and taking a test, if you can do that then you should be in a PhD program and working at los alamos.

Then if you want to get into upper division your talking about process controls, optics, heat transfer, fluids, thermodynamics, advanced organic, finite element analysis, etc, etc. Depending on your flavor of engineering of course.

As I said before out of 130 credits we had 9 credits of liberal arts, are these nuclear engineering courses ABET accredited? Something is not adding up.
Usually the testing credits are for the basics, history, speech, algebra, english 1, foreign language, generally not differential equations. Here is the list of tests you can take as far a CLEP, and I know the AF gives free study guides and practice tests. Many are just going to test you on what you learned in high school. They often have high failure rates, but it's a few hours so worth a try. I took 5, passed 4 of the 5 with some studying. I failed the speech one, of all things, and I give speeches as part of my job .
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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Usually the testing credits are for the basics, history, speech, algebra, english 1, foreign language, generally not differential equations. Here is the list of tests you can take as far a CLEP, and I know the AF gives free study guides and practice tests. Many are just going to test you on what you learned in high school. They often have high failure rates, but it's a few hours so worth a try. I took 5, passed 4 of the 5 with some studying. I failed the speech one, of all things, and I give speeches as part of my job .
I got a C on my "Public Speaking" class. It is okay it didn't affect my GPA at all. It was a transfer so I ended with my GPA of 3.85. The instructor asked me if I had an issue with my grade to which I said heck no. Like you I was up front of people all the time. Kind of hard not to if your the senior NCO (1SG) in the company and it is your responsibility to put out the day's information to all the soldiers in your unit, let alone have to give reports to the commanders in the battalion.
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Old 02-14-2018, 10:19 AM
 
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My grandson served 6 years with Medi-Vac in Air Force,completed college courses which allowed him to get in law enforcement which he wanted at discharge.
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Old 02-14-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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Usually the testing credits are for the basics, history, speech, algebra, english 1, foreign language, generally not differential equations. Here is the list of tests you can take as far a CLEP, and I know the AF gives free study guides and practice tests. Many are just going to test you on what you learned in high school. They often have high failure rates, but it's a few hours so worth a try. I took 5, passed 4 of the 5 with some studying. I failed the speech one, of all things, and I give speeches as part of my job .
In my engineering program there were only 9 credits of stuff like that, in the whole program, could maybe be stretched to 12 or 15 if the intro to geology and 2 credits of physical education are also counted

Still that leaves the majority of the degree program that you cant just CLEP out of. CLEP and credits for military service are all great things, I just have to wonder if we are talking about the same engineering degrees. Having 15 credits or so go away would be nice but its not as leveraging as recruiters make it sound, your still left with over 100 credits of brutal course work that will consume inordinate amounts of time .....

If people really are getting real engineering degrees while doing active duty then they are going through 8 year of hell lol. Either that or I am at the low end of human performance lol.
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Old 02-14-2018, 04:09 PM
 
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If you are in STEM you might consider applying for the Navy Nuke scholarship, it's a full ride scholarship and then you end up as an officer. I don't know what the time commitment is right now, I think it was like 9 years when I was a kid.
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:15 PM
 
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any class you take while being in,is better than none
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Old 02-14-2018, 06:24 PM
 
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Can I serve active duty while getting and undergrad degree at the same time. Any options that you know would Ben helpful thanks
Go visit a recruiter on your local college campus.
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