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Old 05-22-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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I have been working on an officer packet for 6 months now, I have had to repeat my live scan prints 3 times and they still have not come back. My recruiter said he doesn't know the issue. Should I go to another recruiter? Has anyone ever heard of this happening before? The consultant that will be boarding me along with the CO of the command I will be likely stationed at both said to go elsewhere. But the next medical recruiter is a few hours away. thoughts?
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Old 05-22-2018, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Hard aground in the Sonoran Desert
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Contact the recruiters supervisor and seek his/her help.
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Old 05-23-2018, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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I have been working on an officer packet for 6 months now, I have had to repeat my live scan prints 3 times and they still have not come back. My recruiter said he doesn't know the issue. Should I go to another recruiter? Has anyone ever heard of this happening before? The consultant that will be boarding me along with the CO of the command I will be likely stationed at both said to go elsewhere. But the next medical recruiter is a few hours away. thoughts?
If you do talk to a second recruiter, or even if you decide to contact this recruiter's supervisor, I would name-drop the CO as being the individual who gave you this advice.
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Old 05-24-2018, 04:55 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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I have been working on an officer packet for 6 months now, I have had to repeat my live scan prints 3 times and they still have not come back. My recruiter said he doesn't know the issue. Should I go to another recruiter? Has anyone ever heard of this happening before? The consultant that will be boarding me along with the CO of the command I will be likely stationed at both said to go elsewhere. But the next medical recruiter is a few hours away. thoughts?
It's not the recruiter's fault. There could be any number of issues. They're being rejected by a place called "OPM" and this would happen with ANY recruiter and the same prints. Their could be a mismatch with old fingerprints of yours, for example, or someone else with the same name. If you didn't fill out your security clearance paperwork exactly correctly, it can cause a rejection. When they are rejected for ANY reason, they have to be redone, they can't be reused. It's unusual for it to happen three times, but isn't your recruiter's fault. Switching recruiters won't change a finger print issue.

Are they ink/paper prints? Who is taking them? You, a police station? There is an art to it.
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Old 05-24-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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I think there's a code of ethics with recruiters that prevents them from taking other recruiter's poolies.
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Old 06-07-2018, 06:13 AM
 
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HI All, thanks for all the feedback. They are live scan prints and doing them in the recruiter's office. I am putting fingers on myself, rolling e.t.c..

I called another recruiter to just ask them, and ended up telling them we were having issues. The other guy called the next morning and said they have a new machine now and to redo them. that was last week, we'll see..
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Old 06-07-2018, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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HI All, thanks for all the feedback. They are live scan prints and doing them in the recruiter's office. I am putting fingers on myself, rolling e.t.c..

I called another recruiter to just ask them, and ended up telling them we were having issues. The other guy called the next morning and said they have a new machine now and to redo them. that was last week, we'll see..
I've fingerprinted a lot of people over the years, but I've never heard of the printee controlling the process. I always had control of their hand and did the rolling and ensured the hand was correctly placed for the four finger print.
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Old 06-07-2018, 01:36 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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I've fingerprinted a lot of people over the years, but I've never heard of the printee controlling the process. I always had control of their hand and did the rolling and ensured the hand was correctly placed for the four finger print.
Things have changed...

https://undark.org/article/fingerpri...w-enforcement/

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A raft of sensitive new fingerprint analysis techniques are proving to be a potentially powerful, and in some cases, worrying new avenue for extracting intimate personal information ó including what drugs a person has used.

Thatís right: The new techniques can determine, from a single fingerprint, not whether you have handled these drugs, but whether you have taken them.

The new methods use biometrics to analyze biochemical traces in sweat found along the ridges of a fingerprint.
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Old 06-07-2018, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Different type of fingerprinting. That's for determining drug usage and medical info. I rolled fingerprints for identification and comparison purposes related to law enforcement. Same process as when you enlist in the military. Only difference is criminal fingerprints go on a red fingerprint card and non-criminal (military, background check, CCW application, etc) go on a blue fingerprint card. But in either case, it should be done by an experienced person who does the rolling. The printee should never control the process.
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Old 06-08-2018, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Different type of fingerprinting. That's for determining drug usage and medical info. I rolled fingerprints for identification and comparison purposes related to law enforcement. Same process as when you enlist in the military. Only difference is criminal fingerprints go on a red fingerprint card and non-criminal (military, background check, CCW application, etc) go on a blue fingerprint card. But in either case, it should be done by an experienced person who does the rolling. The printee should never control the process.
LiveScan doesn't use ink or cards. The Army rolled this out several years ago, but the tech was already a few years developed. The testing phase was like most equipment fielding--faulty image capture, fail to upload, fail to transmit, fail to receive results....but eventually the system kinks were finally reduced enough to field everywhere.
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