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Old 06-01-2018, 05:20 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Moral of the stories above? Go AIR FORCE! :-)
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Old 06-01-2018, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Moral of the stories above? Go AIR FORCE! :-)
Plenty of us in Afghanistan. And we went outside the wire. Unlike 14,000 of the 15,000 army personnel who never did.
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Old 06-02-2018, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Plenty of us in Afghanistan. And we went outside the wire. Unlike 14,000 of the 15,000 army personnel who never did.
Are you making a point? There are Army personnel with 20+ years of service who have NEVER served in a combat zone, let alone rode to the BX on a "mission".

All of our EOD teams were AF or Navy. We (Army) did not have the depth of assets. Same with EW. The Navy kept us "afloat"--we had none of skillsets, training, or expertise to defeat a major daily threat facing us. We kept them busy outside the wire--and those were intense moments. All our K9 support was AF--we took them with us outside. As critical and essential as these folks were, they only represent a fraction of force engaged in or exposed to direct combat--just by numbers alone. The EOD folks endured far more risk exposure and probability of death or injury just by the nature of their duties. We would suffer far too many losses without the AF and Navy enablers in our formations.

I knew a guy who made it a point to state how many times he and his PSD were outside the wire--never knew his point either.
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Old 06-02-2018, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Are you making a point? There are Army personnel with 20+ years of service who have NEVER served in a combat zone, let alone rode to the BX on a "mission".

All of our EOD teams were AF or Navy. We (Army) did not have the depth of assets. Same with EW. The Navy kept us "afloat"--we had none of skillsets, training, or expertise to defeat a major daily threat facing us. We kept them busy outside the wire--and those were intense moments. All our K9 support was AF--we took them with us outside. As critical and essential as these folks were, they only represent a fraction of force engaged in or exposed to direct combat--just by numbers alone. The EOD folks endured far more risk exposure and probability of death or injury just by the nature of their duties. We would suffer far too many losses without the AF and Navy enablers in our formations.

I knew a guy who made it a point to state how many times he and his PSD were outside the wire--never knew his point either.
My response was to dmarie123. Wearing an Air Force uniform didn't mean you were safely tucked away from danger. Read all the posts in the thread.
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Old 06-03-2018, 01:04 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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My response was to dmarie123. Wearing an Air Force uniform didn't mean you were safely tucked away from danger. Read all the posts in the thread.
"Unlike 14,000 of the 15,000 army personnel who never did."

What part of that phrase is relevant to anything in the rest of the thread? As I said, pointless. But please feel free to elaborate on how that slight to the Army has anything to do with what the AF does or doesn't do in a combat zone.

I'll check back later. Same team, buddy.
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Old 06-04-2018, 10:31 AM
 
Location: York, PA
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Do your research on both fields - Infantry and Military Intelligence - before you make any decisions. As stated, Infantry is a young man's game, and many of the old retirees you run into have back and knee problems from years of training and deployments. Both fields have low cutoff scores for promotion to Sergeant and Staff Sergeant, but Infantry has a lot more candidates and a lot more competition at higher grade promotions. MI also offers Warrant Officer and Officer slots - so does IN, but again you have a lot more candidates competing for those slots. MI slots will require a higher security clearance, so review your background and note anything that might be sketchy, because they will. As far as age, you shouldn't have any problem - used to be with your education you'd come in as an E-4, but not sure about today. Good Luck, and after 10 years the time passes pretty quickly. Lucky you, you get to choose between sweltering Georgia or convection oven Arizona for training LOL .
Looking back, that's very true. In my last unit which was a HQ unit, lots of our older Gunnys and Tops who spent most of their careers with the infantry and a few in Recon were plagued with joint and back injuries and were limited as to what they could do as far as runs and marches . I remember one MSGT telling me if he had the chance, he would have stayed in infantry five years, then moved on to another MOS because of this.
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Old 06-04-2018, 02:08 PM
 
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One thing about positions that require a security clearance is that you are somewhat more difficult to clear than an 18 year old, so a longer MOS may be to your benefit. It's no fun to show up to your first duty station and be stuck doing tasks that have nothing to do to your MOS.

OCS is very challenging physically, so get started now doing a lot of pushups, pullups, situps and running. Will also help you at boot camp.

Also consider a medical MOS.
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Old 06-04-2018, 03:51 PM
 
Location: York, PA
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One thing about positions that require a security clearance is that you are somewhat more difficult to clear than an 18 year old, so a longer MOS may be to your benefit. It's no fun to show up to your first duty station and be stuck doing tasks that have nothing to do to your MOS.

OCS is very challenging physically, so get started now doing a lot of pushups, pullups, situps and running. Will also help you at boot camp.

Also consider a medical MOS.
Truth!
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Old 06-04-2018, 06:01 PM
 
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Plenty of us in Afghanistan. And we went outside the wire. Unlike 14,000 of the 15,000 army personnel who never did.
Hahahahahahaha! What planet are you living on? Chair Force outside the wire more than Army? Bhahahahaha! You’re funny!
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Old 06-04-2018, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Hahahahahahaha! What planet are you living on? Chair Force outside the wire more than Army? Bhahahahaha! You’re funny!

Like the army, most Air Force were support personnel and didn't go outside the wire.
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