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Old 06-21-2018, 08:23 AM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Air Force Issues First Guidance to Troops About Space Force
Military.com 20 Jun 2018 By Hope Hodge Seck

Air Force leaders have broken their silence following President Trump's order to create a new military service branch for space.

Leaders issued a message to airmen telling them to stay the course as the process of implementing the president's guidance moves forward. Trump gave the order Monday during a speech to the National Space Council at the White House.

In a message to all airmen sent Tuesday night, service brass including Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein confirmed that, as rumored, the new "space force" would be established as a military service inside the Air Force.

Article Continues at: https://www.military.com/daily-news/...C=eb_180621.nl
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:41 AM
 
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In a message to all airmen sent Tuesday night, service brass including Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein confirmed that, as rumored, the new "space force" would be established as a military service inside the Air Force.
That sentence is rather bureaucratic gibberish.

It takes an act of Congress to create a new "military service," and while creation of a distinct agency within the Air Force is within Executive capacity, funding it as a distinct agency still requires an act of Congress.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:59 AM
 
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As long as it has a realistic mission and doesn't just become another political football packed with small minded bureaucrats, I'm for it. Eventually, we're going to be in interplanetary space, with military or police vessels to enforce treaties and laws.

The worrisome thing is that robotic weapons currently are far superior to a manned spacecraft; they can just slide up next to it and detonate, done. All of this research needs to be done, to protect vessels from such attacks, from meteorite strikes, from radiation, etc.

In the long run, all this research and experience will make space travel cheaper and safer and more practical for everyone.

I'm upset that they cut $2.6 billion from the Nasa project for asteroid mining, though. That seems like a very practical application.
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Old 06-21-2018, 10:50 AM
 
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[b]In a message to all airmen sent Tuesday night, service brass including Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson and Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein confirmed that, as rumored, the new "space force" would be established as a military service inside the Air Force.
Uh, doesn't that already exist?




Even has a cool star trek communicator emblem in it.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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Uh, doesn't that already exist?




Even has a cool star trek communicator emblem in it.
And before that, there was the Naval Space Command. I worked there for 17 years before retiring.
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Old 06-21-2018, 11:55 AM
 
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Uh, doesn't that already exist?




Even has a cool star trek communicator emblem in it.
Yes. I'm not sure what the Air Force is really going to do with Trump's announcement--they probably haven't figured it out yet, either.

They may only mill around while waiting for Congress to pass enabling legislation, or they may make some box-and-wire diagram changes around the current Space Command that look like they've leaned toward what Trump has announced.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Not as far fetched as some believe. Satellites can be used as a foreign nationís military target against USA and they can develop and launch weaponized satellites to not only attack our nationís satellites, but also use it as a weapon against certain buildings. Imagine targeting a satellite to crash land into the White Hoise or Pentagon. Specific satellites for US military could be targeted. Communications and weather satellites could also be targeted. They may not be space marines like in science fiction film, but they may be more like Air Force desk jockeys using joystick or keyboard controls to fight in space.
While these are aims and objectives with merit, does it require setting up a wholly separate organization?
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:21 PM
 
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While these are aims and objectives with merit, does it require setting up a wholly separate organization?
Yes, they can be done under the current Space Command. One thing that is a problem is that right now war is space is outlawed, so there can't even be any real combat operations (remote or otherwise) openly planned.

This isn't like the Cold War when we could actually have troops stationed in Germany doing combat exercises for decades, looking like they were actually ready to go to war.

We can't actually build any orbital combat devices or exercise as though we had them. So as things stand geopolitically today, Space Command as a separate military service would look an awful lot like the biggest boondoggle in the world.
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Old 06-21-2018, 12:41 PM
 
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Yes, they can be done under the current Space Command. One thing that is a problem is that right now war is space is outlawed, so there can't even be any real combat operations (remote or otherwise) openly planned.

This isn't like the Cold War when we could actually have troops stationed in Germany doing combat exercises for decades, looking like they were actually ready to go to war.

We can't actually build any orbital combat devices or exercise as though we had them. So as things stand geopolitically today, Space Command as a separate military service would look an awful lot like the biggest boondoggle in the world.
That's a very cogent point. Perhaps a lot of the groundwork (that is not militarily-oriented in mission) would still be under NASA's domain.

Plus Congress would have to get involved in setting that up - and I don't see them really inclined to doing that.
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Old 06-21-2018, 02:10 PM
 
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I wonder if the Space Force will be in charge of detaining aliens
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