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Old 08-10-2018, 01:05 PM
 
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I have a quick question? How does a Psychologist at Southern Arizona Veterans administration Health Care System become a Veteran Evaluation Services official evaluator and allowed to make medical determinations and diagnosis without formal medical school training? This particular PhD also made several false statements in my evaluation. This doesn't seem like proper medical procedures.

IN addition to C& P exam. I called the evaluator because I never received a copy of his report. He told me he was under contract and couldn't give me a copy. He told me to call his company, VES (Veterans Evaluation Services). I called his company and was told that a copy was sent to VA and while they couldn't give me a copy, I should contact VA directly to get one. VA asked me to submit a Release of Information (ROI) for my own record, back to my own self, just to get a copy! Then they told me they didn't have it. I went around and around with the whole mess. Then finally I had someone call for me and finally received a copy of the assessment...which should have been a part of my package from the beginning. To top it off, after I looked it over, there were several false statements from the evaluator, misrepresenting what I said to him. There was no avenue to dispute it either. I'm at a loss for words with the way I was treated. By the way, don't opt for the RAMP program if you put in for disability. It's a scam as well, and just a quicker way to say no. At least for me.
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Old 08-12-2018, 12:47 PM
 
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Psychologists do not ever go to medical school. Only Psychiatrists go to medical school.

As far as the false statements, I'm sorry, I don't have advice for you. Good luck!
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Old 08-12-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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I have a quick question? How does a Psychologist at Southern Arizona Veterans administration Health Care System become a Veteran Evaluation Services official evaluator and allowed to make medical determinations and diagnosis without formal medical school training? This particular PhD also made several false statements in my evaluation. This doesn't seem like proper medical procedures.

IN addition to C& P exam. I called the evaluator because I never received a copy of his report. He told me he was under contract and couldn't give me a copy. He told me to call his company, VES (Veterans Evaluation Services). I called his company and was told that a copy was sent to VA and while they couldn't give me a copy, I should contact VA directly to get one. VA asked me to submit a Release of Information (ROI) for my own record, back to my own self, just to get a copy! Then they told me they didn't have it. I went around and around with the whole mess. Then finally I had someone call for me and finally received a copy of the assessment...which should have been a part of my package from the beginning. To top it off, after I looked it over, there were several false statements from the evaluator, misrepresenting what I said to him. There was no avenue to dispute it either. I'm at a loss for words with the way I was treated. By the way, don't opt for the RAMP program if you put in for disability. It's a scam as well, and just a quicker way to say no. At least for me.
A quick question?


Write a Complaint

Write a complaint. Include your name, address and telephone number. If you are filing on behalf of a veteran, widow, widower or dependent, include your personal information as well and how you are related to the complainant.

Clearly describe the complaint. Include as many details as possible, including how access to services or benefits was denied and information about who was involved, such as the location of the hospital, the VA organization responsible or any other standard that was not met.

Provide a description that lays out the severity of the complainantís disability or need for benefits and the review of the case.

Send your written complaint against the Department of Veterans Affairs to Department of Veterans Affairs, Office of Inspector General, 810 Vermont Ave. NW, Washington, D.C. 20420.
Patient Health Care Dispute

Go to a Patient Advocate at your local VA health care facility.

Describe the quality of care that you received and discuss any special needs or problems that you have.

Request a review of your case and follow up with the medical center staff for resolution to your claim regarding care received through the VA.

Contact the Board of Veteranís Appeals if you are dissatisfied with the assistance provided by the medical center.

Write a letter with your personal contact information and explain the providerís decision to not provide a specific route of care or treatment. Send the letter to the Department of Veterans Affairs, Board of Veterans Appeals, 810 West Vermont Avenue NW, Washington, D.C. 20420.

https://pocketsense.com/how-to-file-...-12449334.html
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Old Yesterday, 11:02 AM
 
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Thank you so much for the information.
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Old Yesterday, 11:05 AM
 
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Psychologists do not ever go to medical school. Only Psychiatrists go to medical school.

As far as the false statements, I'm sorry, I don't have advice for you. Good luck!
It did seem odd and I thank you.
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Just want to say the same group doing what ever they want to do except they are taking advantage of the RAMP program read below:

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Hi Everyone,

My husband just received a letter from VES (Veterans Evaluation Services) regarding his Disability Claim. We are completely shocked! The VES has listed everything as 'Normal' based on their findings...

HOWEVER- DH has seen private specialists within the last year and a half since getting out (because he is in SO much pain from his knee and back especially- he actually ended up in the ER one day because it was so bad) and MRI scans have shown that he has floating fragments of bone in his knee, caused by a non-combat related knee injury while on deployment, and several herniated discs.

The VES ordered X-Rays but no MRI's. We have copies of the medical reports from the private specialists that he saw- but last time we offered to give them to the VA they said they couldn't take them, that they would have their own specialists evaluate him.

Another thing we are confused about- when DH had the VES eye and hearing exams, the doctors who evaluated him agreed with him that he had deteriorating eyesight (he sees 'floaters' constantly) and the doctor who evaluated his hearing told him that he definitely had a hearing problem. Now the report says these factors are normal as well.

It's too late to call the VA right now- so we'll be calling in the morning. But has anybody else had experience with this? The VES having a completely conflicting report to what private doctors / specialists have found?

We are well and truly shocked to say the least!
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It's an absolute disaster that we even have to have this conversation.
I recently went to a VES site in Monument Colorado. From the time that I sat down, the guy that was doing my evaluation did absolutely nothing but talk once every 3 to 4 minutes. When he did talk, he kept telling me what my symptoms were and how severe they were.
Since I'm no longer an expert, I can can only give my opinion: VES is a bunch of scam artist! I am on a mission to prove it!
I went in with a previously diagnosed TBI. According to this guy, I have zero symptoms. Despite the uncharacteristic outburst, and frequent hour to 6 hour trembling episodes that I get. Other injuries that I are documented to be service connected, all of a sudden there are no symptoms based on his findings. Ironically, I went to the ER the next few days and was told why that was happening, and that it was highly likely due to the TBI.
There are ways to address issues revolving around VES. I have been keeping up with dozens of websites and forums where people talk about how poor of a job they do. It may take time, but keep track of things you find about this company. When you finally have an appeal hearing, you can definitely use the piles of negative comments to support your claim, and assert that VES is not being honest with the VA about their findings.
I don't think that this is an issue within the VA, but simply the scam companies that they keep contracting to do their claims evaluations. This is the third different company that I have dealt with revolving around my claim, in three years. That tells should explain a lot about the quality of the people doing their evaluations.
I went as far as sending the guy (that i refuse to refer to as a dr) a letter letting him know that I would be contacting various local, state, and federal legislators to inform them of what this company is doing to their veterans. I embedded a received and read alert so I know that they got it and read it. I encourage others to call and email their state and federal legislators. With all of the bs that the VA has going, veterans making complaints might encourage them to get their act together


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