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Old 10-10-2018, 08:04 AM
 
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Given the debate on allowing transgender people in the military, I'm wondering: Does anyone here know whether or not being on hormone replacement therapy for sex hormones (when not related to gender identity issues) is a disqualifying condition (e.g. someone who had cancer in their ovaries or testicles and had to have the organs removed)? The reason I'm asking is this will shed some light on whether Trump's transgender ban is actually due to bigotry against them or a side-effect of their medical treatment protocol.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:46 AM
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Location: Wasilla, AK
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Given the debate on allowing transgender people in the military, I'm wondering: Does anyone here know whether or not being on hormone replacement therapy for sex hormones (when not related to gender identity issues) is a disqualifying condition (e.g. someone who had cancer in their ovaries or testicles and had to have the organs removed)? The reason I'm asking is this will shed some light on whether Trump's transgender ban is actually due to bigotry against them or a side-effect of their medical treatment protocol.

This isn't about bigotry. Gender confused individuals are mentally ill and over 40 percent of them attempt suicide. This isn't the type of person suitable for military service.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:56 AM
 
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I do not intend for this thread to be a big debate on transgender service members, but rather asking whether or not being on HRT would be a disqualifying condition in general.
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Old 10-10-2018, 10:49 AM
 
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I do not intend for this thread to be a big debate on transgender service members, but rather asking whether or not being on HRT would be a disqualifying condition in general.
Then you probably should have just asked the question instead of coming out and attacking the situation.
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Old 10-10-2018, 11:20 AM
 
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BTW, it isn't about bigotry. It is about doing the best you can to ensure as many survive hostile situations as possible.
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Old 10-10-2018, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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This isn't about bigotry. Gender confused individuals are mentally ill and over 40 percent of them attempt suicide. This isn't the type of person suitable for military service.
Amen. The mob loves dropping insults onto anyone who dares not take their view of the world and call it facts.

As for OP's question, OP should contact a recruiter or someone in the Pentagon and ask someone who can answer the question with facts.
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Old 10-10-2018, 07:15 PM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Given the debate on allowing transgender people in the military, I'm wondering: Does anyone here know whether or not being on hormone replacement therapy for sex hormones (when not related to gender identity issues) is a disqualifying condition (e.g. someone who had cancer in their ovaries or testicles and had to have the organs removed)? The reason I'm asking is this will shed some light on whether Trump's transgender ban is actually due to bigotry against them or a side-effect of their medical treatment protocol.
All medical issues are case by case and decided by a medical doctor at MEPS. Transgender are not currently banned from joining. I've got the policy letters at work and my unit has sent 2 people to process for enlistment who are post-gender reassignment. They are still pending medical waivers, but may get them. Some have already been successful in 2018. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...gned-contract/.

His ban is not in effect, legally. It was, temporarily, but was shot down in court.

Applicants on Thyroid medication can join, but I've never had anyone try on hormones for cancer treatment. The cancer may itself be a disqualification. I think it is unlikely someone would be able to join in the circumstances you described.
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:38 AM
 
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Applicants on Thyroid medication can join, but I've never had anyone try on hormones for cancer treatment. The cancer may itself be a disqualification. I think it is unlikely someone would be able to join in the circumstances you described.
What I meant with cancer is that HRT is given because their body no longer naturally produces estrogen or testosterone due to the removal of the gonads, not as medication to treat the cancer itself. (A more common analogy would be post-menopausal women on estrogen therapy, but since she'd usually be too old to enlist in such a case I didn't use that as my comparison.)
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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What I meant with cancer is that HRT is given because their body no longer naturally produces estrogen or testosterone due to the removal of the gonads, not as medication to treat the cancer itself. (A more common analogy would be post-menopausal women on estrogen therapy, but since she'd usually be too old to enlist in such a case I didn't use that as my comparison.)
Yes. I understood that. Generally a HISTORY of cancer is completely disqualifying and very difficult to overcome. Occassionally, I have seen non-Hodgkin with at least 10 years of no evidence of disease approved, because it is one of the least likely cancers to reoccur. For the most part, a history of cancer is going to be a no-go at getting into the Air Force.

Often, needing medication is a disqualification. You can't have prescription allergy medications, blood pressure medications, heart burn medications, iron pills, anything (Except thyroid meds for some reason).

These two separate disqualifications combined would be very difficult to overcome.
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Old 10-13-2018, 07:43 AM
 
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The reasoning behind this is that in a combat situation, you may not have access to medication for a long period of time. I have really bad allergies, and I had to take over the counter allergy medication in Florida due to all of the pollen. I was advised by my recruiter to NOT list this as I would be DQeud. Once I got to boot camp, it wasn't a problem at all because the climate there didn't bother me. In fact, once I moved out of FL, I sopped having any allergy problems.

If someone has to take hormone replacement pills, that puts them at risk in a combat situation. The military right now is purging thousands of active duty members who they have deemed as being non-deployable due to medical reasons. The military simply doesn't have the resources to cater to people with medical conditions.
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