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Old Yesterday, 08:04 PM
 
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I have the next two years to think about what it is I'd really like to do. I've wanted this position since the early 2000's, and went through two different boot camps to get here, so getting out is not an easy decision.

I did enroll in TAP early next year, so that may offer up some other opportunities beyond the military. Signing up for TAP does not necessarily equate to discharge, however, and some service members actually end up extending/re-upping when they discover the civilian sector is bleaker than they originally thought.

A few implied termination, but it's nigh impossible to fire a bully IF they're actually "good" at their job. (i.e. sans gross negligence)

Seeing as you can't really fire somebody for acting too much like a haughty used car salesman, here are a few more options I considered:

A. Ask for deployment somewhere where there aren't any civilians. (Wife would love that, I'm sure)

B. Go reserve and get a non-GS equivalent job to what I'm doing now.
B2. Go reserve, then if I like the office, request Title 10 or reservist on AD orders.
B3. Go reserve, and if I can't get a better job, try sliding back into AD.
B4. Go reserve and wait for a GS position to become available.

C. Get out and become a GS myself! (If it doesn't happen, then it wasn't meant to be?)

D. See if the Ft. Sill photo hobby shop position is still open.
Don't think you can't wind up with an obnoxious coworker or even an obnoxious boss wherever you go.

I worked for a director in the Pentagon who for some reason disliked me--and showed it--to such an extent that other people, including my direct supervisor, gave me consolation.

When your immediate supervisor says things like, "You didn't deserve that," and "Here's something the director wants done--if you do it, maybe you can get off his list," and when the brand new lieutenant in the shop says, right after you've introduced yourself, "Wow, the director sure doesn't like you!" and then when the director's eventual replacement says, "I've looked at my predecessor's performance reports for you...he didn't do you any favors," then you know for sure you've been through a crappy experience.
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Old Yesterday, 10:16 PM
 
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Don't think you can't wind up with an obnoxious coworker or even an obnoxious boss wherever you go.
Absolutely, mate. There are plenty of awesome people in the military, too. What I think what needs to happen is, I need to get off my lazy tuckus, get out there, and meet some more service members at different military installations, E-Clubs, and various VFW's.
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Old Today, 04:55 AM
 
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No. Mr. Kirk, DJT is the worst. LOL.
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Old Today, 04:58 AM
 
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Well...at least some are. I'm having a rough time dealing with a civilian at work and was hoping someone could inflect some insight.

I'm active duty, but we have civilians in our office. They were able to finagle the schedule to where they work half the time for about twice the pay.

The one civilian is pretty cool about it. He just comes in, does his job, goes home and is real quiet about it. No muss, no fuss. Conversely, I have to listen to this other civilian loudly brag about how great his hours are. (that is...when he's not bragging about his VA disability benefits or how great he is at his job) Our caseload is such (as in low) that he'll explode angrily if anything interrupts his Netflix/Joe Rogan sessions. I'm of the mindset that if you're truly a master and really love your job, there's no reason to growl like DMX and scream, "I WORK WITH A BUNCH OF &*(#$& !" when something minuscule was botched that can easily be corrected. I'd like to think this type of behavior would not be tolerated at literally any other duty station in the military. But...I still have to find a way to put up with it for at least two more years, because guess what? As he also reminds me on a daily basis, you practically cannot fire GS civilians.

I joined the military and picked my particular job to help people...but it's pretty evident that the schedule is tantamount...at least where I'm stationed. Putting in for leave is dependent upon our personnel rotation and is more often than not unavailable throughout most of the year without it negatively affecting my co-workers.

What would you do in this situation?
He's an overpaid child but it's not your problem. Don't worry about it. It will never change. You'll get reassigned eventually.
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Old Today, 12:30 PM
 
Location: SW OK (AZ Native)
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I have the next two years to think about what it is I'd really like to do. I've wanted this position since the early 2000's, and went through two different boot camps to get here, so getting out is not an easy decision. ...

D. See if the Ft. Sill photo hobby shop position is still open.
It's not. It closed a few years ago, outsourced to a Hobby Lobby outside the main gate on Sheridan at Gore. So plan D is a no-go.
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Old Today, 02:19 PM
 
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It's not. It closed a few years ago, outsourced to a Hobby Lobby outside the main gate on Sheridan at Gore. So plan D is a no-go.
<sigh>
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