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Originally Posted by Dwatted Wabbit
Those murders, in the tens of millions BTW, occurred because that's what commies do. They love terrorizing their own populations, and any other poor mopes they can get control of. Africa is in for a rough ride.
It's as natural for them as breathing. Try 50 to 100 million during Chairman Mao's reign of terror. Wonder where they dumped the bodies. That's a lot of bulldozer work. Lucky for them the West invented bulldozers. And developed diesel fuel for them.
Or look at Vietnam. Cambodia. The Great Terror in the USSR. Ivan killed off countless of their own soldiers after WWII because they couldn't trust them.
Cuba. Wherever there are commies in charge, there are mass slaughters.
They can't help themselves any more than a shark can decide to become a vegetarian. They are hardwired narcissistic psychopaths. That doesn't excuse, it merely explains. So they are, at their core, evil.
Commies will USE capitalism, because after a few decades of hopeless joke Five Year Plans guess what, Central Planning didn't work out so well. So they went to the model that works. Stealing technology and intel, in the hundreds of billion$ of dollars, got the Chicommies to where they are today.
If Nixon and Kissinger hadn't gone over there hat in hand, "opening up" China so we could cleverly pit them against Ivan, China would still be a 19th century 4th world nation of starving rice farmers and fishermen.
Good vs. Evil.
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That's right, but there's more to that:
The Middle Kingdom was driven driven by and multiple deaths long before that, as seen in the rise of the Mongols, which led to a global per capita death rate that rivaled that of the twentieth century. Commies were not involved.
Long after that, multiple military powers were planning to carve China up as if they did a turkey, in the same way they colonized many other parts of Asia. Later, countries like U.S. came up with their own brand of terror, not to kill people but to control them in various ways:
https://sites.evergreen.edu/zoltan/interventions/
And then there's Hitler, which the allies worked with long before the war, and whose officials were used by the same after. That was followed by the incredibly brilliant view of mutually assured destruction.
What's more notable about all that is that they had similar views: the other is unreedemable, evil is inherent, and they must be eradicated.
And what about capitalism and central planning? Apparently, the results are mixed:
China promoted central planning throughout, but in 1979 experienced an ave. 7-pct economic growth rate per annum, allowing them to lift over 800 million people out of poverty, by allowing foreign investment, but with the government still a major partner.
The U.S. did the opposite with a mixed economy. After the early 1960s, its growth rate slowed down to around 2-3 pct per annum. After the 1970s, it began to experience chronic trade deficits, and after the 1980s, incredible levels of debt to the point that they will never be able to pay them back: now almost $100 trillion, excluding $170 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
What about the Philippines, which literally copied the U.S. but feared another round of control by foreigners (it was colonized for over 400 years), so came up with restrictions? It experienced the same slow growth rate: around 2 pct per annum, across more than four decades.
What about their neighbors? Similar to China, with a 5-6 pct growth rate, except that they promoted varying degrees of central planning, protectionism, and even authoritarianism, and then opened up their economies much later. For example, Vietnam: 5-6 pct. growth rate. It has a free market but ownership is restricted for foreigners, and it allows mostly cooperatives. It opened up only a few years ago.
North Korea? Central planning, state capitalism. It has a growth rate similar to that of to the U.S.
Here's the punch line: Cuba. Central planning, and like North Korea essentially no private sector, just minor partnerships in a few. Its economy grew from $25 billion in 1998 to $100 billion by 2018. That's a 10-pct ave. economic growth rate.