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Old 11-24-2023, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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After being told to leave gear/equipment behind, he is now being charged for it to the tune of $3,561.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...n-afghanistan/
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Old 11-24-2023, 10:52 AM
 
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And yet they wonder why they’re having trouble with recruiting.
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Old 11-24-2023, 01:15 PM
 
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In context, 5,200 us military soldiers were ordered to leave personal gear behind in Afghanistan during the finial year. Only ONE (1) report of someone claiming they are being charged for gear they were ordered to leave behind. There are about a couple dozen verified reports of soldiers being charged for gear that they can not return nor can they account for what happen to it but none so far are on the list of items assumed to have been left behind. In a few small cases, those items have turned up for sale here in the USA close to the separating base or near that soldiers home.
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Old 11-24-2023, 02:55 PM
 
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Old 11-24-2023, 05:43 PM
 
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In context, 5,200 us military soldiers were ordered to leave personal gear behind in Afghanistan during the finial year. Only ONE (1) report of someone claiming they are being charged for gear they were ordered to leave behind. There are about a couple dozen verified reports of soldiers being charged for gear that they can not return nor can they account for what happen to it but none so far are on the list of items assumed to have been left behind. In a few small cases, those items have turned up for sale here in the USA close to the separating base or near that soldiers home.
You could just say you didn’t believe this story. But thank you.
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Old 11-24-2023, 06:12 PM
 
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he is criticizing while in uniform, possibly still on active duty.
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Old 11-24-2023, 08:49 PM
 
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Total BS. All of it can be written off as a field loss. Pure cash grab to take advantage of people who don’t know what a lie this is.
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Old 11-24-2023, 10:59 PM
 
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I don’t know whether this guy is telling the truth or not. It would depend on what type of gear we are talking about and also how his particular unit interpreted the regulations.

But I have seen a few aircraft missions that were overweight and people absolutely had their personal baggage taken off the plane, to hopefully be shipped out later.

This reminds me of the time I was stationed in Kadena. One of the rotators out of Manas was overweight, so they pulled about 200 large bags off the plane, and they showed up at Kadena about 3 weeks later. It would’ve been easy if everyone was Air Force, but of course, they were a mixture of different services stationed on Okinawa. Many of the bags had no names on it, so we didn’t know who to call for them to come pick them up. After about a month, we still had about 30 bags left in the room, and some of them were full of deployment gear. I’m not sure what happened to them because I PCS’d off the island.

I think it’s very plausible that people got charged for missing items, although it’s also possible that they were given leniency. No way to know as each situation is different, different rules, different services, different people interpreting the rules.


Anyway, this whole thing reminds me of the time that my unit was missing one NVG. We tore the building apart looking for this one item, and spent weeks emailing people and ended up doing a Report of Survey. We suspect that the item was turned in, but the paperwork was lost and it was never updated in the system.

Meanwhile, as we were spending about a hundred man hours trying to find this one NVG, I read a report where we let tens of thousand of NVGs fall into Taliban hands in Afghanistan after we left.

That sums up the absurdity of the military pretty well. Giving away tens of thousands while caring about one single item.
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Old 11-25-2023, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Central Massachusetts
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I don’t know whether this guy is telling the truth or not. It would depend on what type of gear we are talking about and also how his particular unit interpreted the regulations.

But I have seen a few aircraft missions that were overweight and people absolutely had their personal baggage taken off the plane, to hopefully be shipped out later.

This reminds me of the time I was stationed in Kadena. One of the rotators out of Manas was overweight, so they pulled about 200 large bags off the plane, and they showed up at Kadena about 3 weeks later. It would’ve been easy if everyone was Air Force, but of course, they were a mixture of different services stationed on Okinawa. Many of the bags had no names on it, so we didn’t know who to call for them to come pick them up. After about a month, we still had about 30 bags left in the room, and some of them were full of deployment gear. I’m not sure what happened to them because I PCS’d off the island.

I think it’s very plausible that people got charged for missing items, although it’s also possible that they were given leniency. No way to know as each situation is different, different rules, different services, different people interpreting the rules.


Anyway, this whole thing reminds me of the time that my unit was missing one NVG. We tore the building apart looking for this one item, and spent weeks emailing people and ended up doing a Report of Survey. We suspect that the item was turned in, but the paperwork was lost and it was never updated in the system.

Meanwhile, as we were spending about a hundred man hours trying to find this one NVG, I read a report where we let tens of thousand of NVGs fall into Taliban hands in Afghanistan after we left.

That sums up the absurdity of the military pretty well. Giving away tens of thousands while caring about one single item.
good post and like you in this post think there is more to this story than shown.
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Old 11-26-2023, 07:59 AM
 
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After being told to leave gear/equipment behind, he is now being charged for it to the tune of $3,561.

https://americanmilitarynews.com/202...n-afghanistan/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCKoMWakZ6M
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