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View Poll Results: Branch of Service and Current Status
USAF 26 23.01%
Navy 26 23.01%
Army 29 25.66%
Marines 10 8.85%
Coast Guard 6 5.31%
Active 8 7.08%
Retired 41 36.28%
Active Guard 10 8.85%
Active Reserve 6 5.31%
"former" military 32 28.32%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-27-2008, 02:09 PM
 
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USAF: 1972-1998

Intel Analyst (1N491)...briefly a Fuels Specialist (63170) 1974-1977 (real AF )...then yanked back into Intel world.

Last 10 years in manufacturing (white collar).
Gas Passers are the Crew Chief's best friend! Thanks for your service, Steel Man!
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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1976 to 2001

USN on board various subs, and two tours of Law Enforcement.

I am retired and have my blue ID card and pension
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Pope AFB
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air force, 22+ years, retired June 1, 2008
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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Gas Passers are the Crew Chief's best friend! Thanks for your service, Steel Man!
Speaking of passing gas. I remember one slow Sunday afternoon when I was called in to refuel a C-130 with my R8 fuel truck. Anyway, I remember getting ready to pump fuel and the Crew Chief came up behind me and blew a whistle telling me to start the fuel transfer...that whistle startled me. Well, anyway, I started pumping fuel and was checking the pressure gages when the Crew Chief came running around yelling shut it down. I had pumped about 300 gallons of JP4 and hit the emergency kill switch. I turned around and noticed fuel coming out of the two wingtip valves that he forgot to check and see if they were closed. Most of the 300 gallons ended up on the tarmac and within 15 minutes there must of been 15 vehicles around the plane. I asked the Fire Chief if I could unhook from the plane and leave due to the fire hazard. I didn't see the Crew Chief again for about 6 months after that.
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:40 AM
 
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Steel Man, I've got a related story. It's how I learned what "assume" means" I was a newly-minted 3-Level (apprentice in the civilian world) I had recently been put on Mather AFB's flight line to work on the T-43 (navigator trainer; it's a B737). It ws 0200 hrs and we had to defuel a T-43 of about 2,000# for a cross country. Now, 5 bodies are required for a legal T-43 defuel;

- Fuel truck driver
- Refuel Supervisor
- Guy on top of refuel truck to prevent tank overflow (this was a L-O-N-G time ago...
- Guy in cockpit
- Guy at fuel nozzle
- Guy at APU shutdown handle in wheel well

So the guy that's with me tells me to go up on top of the truck and open the hatch and come back down. So I do. In the meantime, he set the cockpit switches and came back down, telling the refuel driver to start the defuel. VERY soon after the pumps reached full RPMs, fuel came out of the top of the truck! We'd been sent a full truck and I hadn't seen it in the dark.

The next a.m, as my flight chief "talked" to us, he explained that "that when you assume, you make an "a** " out of you and me!

(Actaully the fuel folks bought some of it for sending us a full truck. And the very sleepy firefighters weren't happy to be doing a washdown that early...)
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:01 PM
 
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Navy E6 20+ more days left till active duty in the rear view

These 9 years went by fast, but Its time for me to move on to other things in my life. Done a few destroyers and 1 aircraft carrier. Man the time fly's fast.
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Old 07-30-2008, 03:34 PM
 
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USAF 1969 to 1973
Minot, ND and Shemya Ak, got out after that to get warm!
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:02 PM
 
Location: TX and NM on the border of the Great Southwest.
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USAF 1968-1972 (Crew Chief F-100 and F111)

I am currently a retired civil servant. I've been a job jumper since the AF going from a semi-truck driver, a machinist, student, a researcher at a nuclear waste site, a port agricultural inspector, a regional and a headquarters staff biologist and now I restore antique tractors. I left out a few jobs in that list but I have found that life is just too short to get all the T-shirts. However, I hope I'm not finished yet.
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:10 PM
 
Location: TX and NM on the border of the Great Southwest.
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So the guy that's with me tells me to go up on top of the truck and open the hatch and come back down. So I do. In the meantime, he set the cockpit switches and came back down, telling the refuel driver to start the defuel. VERY soon after the pumps reached full RPMs, fuel came out of the top of the truck! We'd been sent a full truck and I hadn't seen it in the dark.
Crew chief, your story reminded me of the night some of my guys almost put a fully fueled F-111 on jacks. Had they succeeded they would have warped the airframe. They already had the jacks set but we caught it before they got on the handles.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Western Bexar County
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Steel Man, I've got a related story. It's how I learned what "assume" means" I was a newly-minted 3-Level (apprentice in the civilian world) I had recently been put on Mather AFB's flight line to work on the T-43 (navigator trainer; it's a B737). It ws 0200 hrs and we had to defuel a T-43 of about 2,000# for a cross country. Now, 5 bodies are required for a legal T-43 defuel;

- Fuel truck driver
- Refuel Supervisor
- Guy on top of refuel truck to prevent tank overflow (this was a L-O-N-G time ago...
- Guy in cockpit
- Guy at fuel nozzle
- Guy at APU shutdown handle in wheel well

So the guy that's with me tells me to go up on top of the truck and open the hatch and come back down. So I do. In the meantime, he set the cockpit switches and came back down, telling the refuel driver to start the defuel. VERY soon after the pumps reached full RPMs, fuel came out of the top of the truck! We'd been sent a full truck and I hadn't seen it in the dark.

The next a.m, as my flight chief "talked" to us, he explained that "that when you assume, you make an "a** " out of you and me!

(Actaully the fuel folks bought some of it for sending us a full truck. And the very sleepy firefighters weren't happy to be doing a washdown that early...)
Good one! I remember defuel a C130 one time that got stuck in the mud after going off the runway in a storm. I made sure the truck was empty before going to the plane. I also remember one time I was doing an over-the-wing refueling of a B57 just before an air show. I was topping off the plane when I turned around and a civilian was right behind me smoking a cigarette and asking me what I'm doing? After yelling at him to put out the cigarette, I told him trying not to be blown up while refueling a jet.
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