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Old 05-01-2009, 08:11 AM
 
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Bottom line is YES it does basically ruin the town. Too many reasons to list, go somewhere near a base, and then go somewhere not near one and you'll see for yourself.
San Diego ruined by the military?

No, not quite.
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Old 05-01-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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Bottom line is YES it does basically ruin the town. Too many reasons to list, go somewhere near a base, and then go somewhere not near one and you'll see for yourself.
Let's see, there are million dollar homes within 5 minutes of Wright-Patterson AFB, OH. The Presidio of Monterey, CA is near some VERY pricey real estate. On the other hand, there isn't any military installation (except a recruiting office) near downtown Detroit...
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Old 05-01-2009, 12:12 PM
 
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Let's see, there are million dollar homes within 5 minutes of Wright-Patterson AFB, OH. The Presidio of Monterey, CA is near some VERY pricey real estate. On the other hand, there isn't any military installation (except a recruiting office) near downtown Detroit...
this is an awesome example of the danger of being a one horse town (or rather, one industry town). It has nothing to do with military presence or absence.
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Old 05-02-2009, 10:07 AM
 
Location: British Columbia.
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Bottom line is YES it does basically ruin the town. Too many reasons to list, go somewhere near a base, and then go somewhere not near one and you'll see for yourself.

I would tend to agree with this from my observation. Air force bases tend to be better then army bases though.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:58 PM
 
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Bottom line is YES it does basically ruin the town. Too many reasons to list, go somewhere near a base, and then go somewhere not near one and you'll see for yourself.
i've delivered to the Givens Warehouses in Chesapeake and I didn't think the area was too bad and there's military all over the area...
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Old 05-02-2009, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Sound Beach
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I think it's a chicken vs. egg argument. Were the seedier towns near the base seedy before the base got there? I think that is the case in a lot of instances.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:19 PM
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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I couldnt agree more alexei27! Someone mentioned FT Bragg, NC...Was there even much of a Fayetteville before the military?

Lets take Colorado Springs, CO....Ft Carson, Air Force Academy, Peterson Air Force Base, Schriver Air Force Base, Cheyenne Mtn Air Station....Military surrounds this city...and gee...voted BEST PLACE TO LIVE 2006...and one of the healthiest cities 2008.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:22 PM
 
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I live in Sierra Vista, AZ next to Fort Huachuca and you don't really notice that it's a military town, the one reason SV really sucks is cause it's so close to the border, other than that I think the military brings in a lot of good business
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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This is by no means a question of disrespect, but in general it seems that wheverer military bases go crime goes up, the property values decrease, trashy stores come in, and unruly people come into town.

It seems the prescence of military bases (even though a huge economic boon) are offset by the social costs.

Anyone else notice this?
Here's the problem with your logic, first you'd have to tell us about a "new military base opening up" stateside, and unless there's something I'm missing that has not happened in a very long time.

What you observed about military bases is true, but it builds up over time:

- many young people with more disposable income than any other place normally existing in US society
- a draft-based military that resulted in a revolving door with people on the outs not drifting far from their last base
- property value around bases would be the same as property value around any other "industrial" site (exceptions can be noted, but in general bases have industrial type activities).

Take a look at how many local economies are funded by bases. I think that's a fine example of "value" around a base.

Now take a look at bases that were cleaned up and given back to the public. Many of them are a boom.

The volunteer military is now a direct reflection of the American public (the Army's demographics for example are almost an exact mirror). So if it's ugly, don't forget it's a reflection.
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Old 05-04-2009, 10:05 AM
 
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What ruins an area is the hoards of stupid E-2's that suck up all the bandwidth on my FOB playing games all friggen day....

Dude.....WTF.....
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