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Old 05-04-2010, 11:03 AM
 
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Many airmen expected to fail new fitness test | Stars and Stripes (http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=69737&source=rss - broken link)
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:11 AM
 
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I'd like to know how fast they want a 1.5 mile run and how many push and situps they expect as well.
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Old 05-05-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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PT and the PT test has always been a joke, no matter if your in the AF or the Army....not sure about the others...

Anyway, the are doing 4 total requirements...this has been done in the Army for years...push up, set ups, 2-mile run, and then a weigh in...then if you do not make your weight you then get a "tape test."

The "tape test" is a complete joke and it will be in the AF.....no matter what they call it...

Don't beleive me, take 3 people to do 1 measurment, on a single person...I guarantee you will get 3 different measurments...

And there will have to have different measurements for men and women...exactally where the measeument is taken...

So, they will learn...the hard way...and not listen to the failure of the Army....
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Old 05-05-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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PT and the PT test has always been a joke, no matter if your in the AF or the Army....not sure about the others...

Anyway, the are doing 4 total requirements...this has been done in the Army for years...push up, set ups, 2-mile run, and then a weigh in...then if you do not make your weight you then get a "tape test."

The "tape test" is a complete joke and it will be in the AF.....no matter what they call it...

Don't beleive me, take 3 people to do 1 measurment, on a single person...I guarantee you will get 3 different measurments...

And there will have to have different measurements for men and women...exactally where the measeument is taken...

So, they will learn...the hard way...and not listen to the failure of the Army....
I was a Master Fitness Trainer in the Army for amost 15 years and the Army Fitness Program has worked fine so I don't know what you are talking about. As long as the NCOs doing the testing/monitoring have integrity and training there isn't a problem.
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:50 PM
 
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I was a Master Fitness Trainer in the Army for amost 15 years and the Army Fitness Program has worked fine so I don't know what you are talking about. As long as the NCOs doing the testing/monitoring have integrity and training there isn't a problem.
In our ANOC class, we had 1 person who was being taped.....had 4 other people do a "tape test" came up with 4 different results...thats why on the fourm it says 2 of the 3 measurments must be with 1/4 inch....

The Army physcial fitness program is a joke...push up, sit up, and then 2 mile run....that is also why the gym is full...because the exercises that you had to do (and if you deviated from them and hurt someone your butt was in a sling) ...well lets just say there are better exercises out there....that the ones in the manual.....

There were the few and very far between that were like you, who would push to have their Soldiers to do better...and even then, there are better exercises out there that give you better results....

So, i'm not really sure what your talking about......just because you were a master fitnesss trainer means nothing....

I was also a trainer, and I would teach the Soldier how to do it correctly....a few weeks/months I would go and check...and guess what...not doing it correct....
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:54 PM
 
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because the exercises that you had to do (and if you deviated from them and hurt someone your butt was in a sling) ...well lets just say there are better exercises out there....that the ones in the manual.....
What the heck are you even talking about?? What exercised you had to do? Maybe you were in a sucky unit or something, but the Army PT test is no joke. I worked my ass off to earn my Physical Fitness patch in AIT and exceeded that score throughout permanent duty, competing more push-ups than most of the males in my company. If the PT text was ever a joke to you, it is because YOU made it one
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:22 PM
 
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I took the old test last week, but they used a new way to conduct the tape measurement. It was some mechanical measurement tool, with different colors--basically it takes the human error out of it.


Based on the new standards my score would increase but I won't pass because there are minimums in each category that you have to meet. I need to improve on sit ups. I dont' really do them because they hurt my back. I have until October to improve.

I think the new Air Force PT test. I think it will be used as a force shaping tool. It will be interesting to see what happens when the Senior NCOs and Officers start failing too.
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Old 05-05-2010, 05:24 PM
 
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It is part of that "warrior mentality" that the senior officers want to promote. They do not seem to care that if your job is to do nothing but sit at a computer screen day in and day out monitoring for cyber attacks, they want you to be able to go out and fight it out with a Marine. So you put in your hours on duty then you are suppose to go out after work and run and do push ups and all that crap. The Navy already figure it out years ago. On ships they had sailors doing 12 hour work shifts. Then they had to eat, clean up, sleep and they had no time to go jogging (let alone a place to do it) so they had a lot of unfit sailors. The Navy had a choice, kick them out and not have anyone to sit looking at radar screens and etc for 12 hours a day or cut them some slack. The Navy decided to cut them some slack and started looking at some of their standards based upon what the guy was actually suppose to do when on duty. (Plus fat over weight guys tend to float better when the ship sinks. They figured that one out in WW II but did not make it well known to the public.)
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:50 PM
 
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What the heck are you even talking about?? What exercised you had to do? Maybe you were in a sucky unit or something, but the Army PT test is no joke. I worked my ass off to earn my Physical Fitness patch in AIT and exceeded that score throughout permanent duty, competing more push-ups than most of the males in my company. If the PT text was ever a joke to you, it is because YOU made it one
I want to know when you were in the Army.....
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Old 05-05-2010, 08:53 PM
 
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I want to know when you were in the Army.....
Active Duty from 1996-1999
Hawaii National Guard 1999-2001
US Army Reserves, South Dakota for half time then transfered to Iowa, 2004-2007
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