04-02-2012, 09:21 PM
Location: Seven Seven Three
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Wisconsin. No idea why anybody would want to live in Iowa.
04-06-2012, 08:43 PM
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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barajaj
how are taxes in iowa??? i'm guessing it's very easy going there, with little crime and low taxes, with a small percentage of minorities.
However are there black people there?
There are some artsy/hipsters but nothing overwhelming. However there is a large population of minorities and some areas of the city are not safe.
You know what? Stay the hell away from Milwaukee. We've got enough racial tension here without transplants coming in and making the problem worse.
04-07-2012, 07:51 AM
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grmi66
Good answers, couple of other things to help me narrow this down. I grew up in flat as a pancake NW Ohio and after living out west really need someplace that is at least hilly. Been to Minneapolis and liked it as a place to visit but don't know if I could live someplace that flat again.
Have a background in selling various sorts of blue collar products like software, warehouse supplies, management and the like. Have a family member who lives in Iowa and she told me that because of the aging population, some companies are having a hard time replacing senior staff and management.
So between Wisconsin and Iowa, what is my better bet?
In Milwaukee and Des Moines, you will be near
some hilliness I guess. The Milwaukee area has hills as you go west. I know what you mean by flat as a pancake and it's not that bad. Having Lake Michigan nearby is neat and would trump the others because of it, if the decision strictly came down to geography.
I've seen areas south of Des Moines that are downright beautiful. Iowa is largely farmland which means not much trees outside of state forests. Can be pretty in the summer when the crops are growing.
Des Moines seems like a healthy, growing city. It's on the small side as cities go, so there's not nearly as much to do as the others. If you don't do a lot to begin with, it might not be that bad.
Milwaukee is an interesting and lively place... in a good way. It's more compact and has a more urban vibe to it... in a good way.
As for Minneapolis, I think it's only a couple hours from Duluth and Lake Superior. Minnesota's North Shore area is the most beautiful area I've seen in the midwest so far. Don't mean to offend anyone, I haven't seen it all yet.
04-07-2012, 07:16 PM
Location: Portland OR
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Engineer_Guy
Racist much?
With regards to blacks in Minneapolis, it always suprises me how many Somalis emigrate to the twin cities. Everytime I am there, I see lot's of them and just think to myself -- damn isn't it COLD here for you guys?
04-07-2012, 07:21 PM
Location: Portland OR
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I don't think Iowa wins any contests
That is EXACTLY what the folks in Iowa want you to think.
There PR campaign is working!
I have lot's of family and friends there and they love it. They also are content to know that rest of country thinks it is not a cool place.
I do think Wisconsin's best days are behind it. I would not entertain that place.
04-10-2012, 11:21 AM
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Merkin
I don't think Iowa wins any contests
The question wasn't about moving to Iowa, it was about moving to Des Moines, Iowa.
Anyway, I love Minneapolis (born there, a lot of family, visit often) so I'm bias to Minneapolis as a great place to live. I can't really speak of Milwaukee. That said, I love living in Des Moines and have no intention of moving anytime soon. Of course DM won't offer the amount of things the other two MUCH larger metro's have to offer (both good and bad) , the question is really, what all do you need to be happy?
Oh yeah....to address the snarky comment about "contests" Des Moines wins? Here just a few recent ones
(#1's bolded ):
2011 Rankings
Des Moines Ranked #3 for jobs for 2012 (December, Forbes)
Des Moines #3 Best City for Business (December 13, MarketWatch)
Des Moines is Greenest City (December issue, Self Magazine)
Iowa ranks in top five of "best run" states (November 29, 247WallSt.com)
Des Moines Named Age-friendly city (October 11, World Health Organization's Global Network of Age-Friendly Cities)
Gray's Lake Park Named One of America's "Great Public Spaces" (October 4, American Planning Association)
Beaverdale Makes America's Prettiest Neighborhoods list (September 28, Forbes)
KaBOOM! Names Ankeny Among 151 "Playful City USA" Communities (September 6, Kaboom)
Urbandale, Johnston, Ankeny ranked in top 100 cities to live (August 15, CNN Money Magazine )
Iowa ranks 2nd in America in Volunteerism (August 9, Volunteering in America report released by the Corporation for National and Community Service)
Adventureland and Adventure Bay named one of America’s Top 10 Water Parks (August 3, TripAdvisor)
Des Moines #1 City for Young Professionals (July 12, Forbes)
Des Moines is rated the #2 place for business and careers by Forbes (June 29, Forbes)
Iowa is first in the nation for cost of doing business, and among the top ten states for doing business overall (June 29, CNBC Special Report)
U.S. News Says Des Moines is Richest Metro Area (June 2, U.S. News & World Report)
Greater Des Moines ranks #2 in the Midwest and #16 nationwide for small business and population growth . (April 14, The Business Journals)
Des Moines #5 Best Midwest Food Town . (March, Midwest Living)
Des Moines named the best place to live on the Silicon Prairie , and one of 18 “coolest places to live in America.” (March 8, Men's Journal)
Des Moines ranked in the top 100 socially networked cities . (March 8, Men's Journal)
Des Moines Arts Festival #7 on list of Top 10 Fairs and Festivals (February 2011, AmericanStyle Magazine)
Des Moines metro ranks well on Farmers Insurance “most secure” list (February 11, Farmers Insurance Group)
Wells Fargo Arena Receives Highest Ranking in Venue History (January 25, Pollstar Top 100 Worldwide Arena Venues)
04-10-2012, 12:08 PM
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Milwaukee has Lake michigan which is huge. It also has beautiful areas nearby,like the lake country.
04-10-2012, 01:26 PM
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Wisconsin. No idea why anybody would want to live in Iowa.
I'd say you might be the target audience for this.
Enjoy...
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04-10-2012, 04:10 PM
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I do think Wisconsin's best days are behind it. I would not entertain that place.
I guess your being defenseive and sarcastic. Saying that,Des Moines is not even as big as Madison,so not sure it even belongs in the discussion.
04-10-2012, 07:19 PM
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Location: M I N N E S O T A
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grmi66
Not too familiar with the midwest, but from looking around the country it looks like it may be the best place to relocate to finish out my career. Looking for a business to business outside sales type job and a nice place to live.
Will be mid-40's, recently divorced, active in church and outdoor activities like hiking, cycling, trail running. Not really into the arts or watching sports, enjoy going to a museum about once a year. Do enjoy a good micro-brewery, funky local restaurants and seeing live music occasionally.
For housing just need a reasonably priced 1-2 bedroom house or condo that allows a dog. Only other concern is state/local taxes. Have spent most of my career in the mountain west where local taxes are minimal and state taxes are low. Don't want to find out I am getting paid more but taking home less because of taxes.
So far I have some job leads in Des Moines, Milwaukee and may start looking in Minneapolis. Any thoughts on what city is better?
They are all great but the rankings are
Minneapolis
Milwaukee
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