worst neighborhood of milwaukee (store, areas, build)

[Lookout Kid]

Originally Posted by dkmisol

YES!!! YES!! YES!!! This area is way overlooked.

My parents live off of Granville and 97th St., about five minutes from "Ghetto's Meadows." I had a girlfriend that lived in there once... pizzarias wont deliver there even during the day. Her father was a landlord, and he had been working with the FBI at times. Criminals love it there... the nearest police precinct is the one on 70th and Silver Spring... very far away if calling 911.

Sure the area around Northridge is rough, but it's a picnic compared to the stuff at 25th and Center. Or even further south just north of Marquette.

[Macroman]

I see FonduLac Avenue as the center of crime in the area. Starting near I-43 and Vliet it heads NW through all the worst neighborhoods. It's a popular locale for massive cruising, crazy driving and many robberies and shootings. It's only when this street goes nort of Capital Drive near 40th street that I relax.

I don't feel really safe within a mile of this street day or night, and its dangerously close to downtown.

[karfar]

Originally Posted by tully

This demographic map will give interested parties a pretty clear idea of areas to avoid (it shows 1990 vs 2000 census info):
http://www.uwm.edu/~margo/mke2000/domirace.pdf
there are several striking things: the growth of the black and hispanic areas, the NW migration of blacks, the continuing dominance of whites east of Milwaukee River, and the stark racial division in general. (note: area between black and hispanic is the I-94)

Ronnie, I would be careful doing what you're doing. Don't get lulled into complacancy-- stay in your car, get to your destination, no unnecessary stops, and stick to daylight hours. I'm a white cyclist (20 years in milw now), and have gone into the North area many times, and seen some scary things-- people cutting in front of me (in car and on foot) as if I wasn't there, people making the "gun gesture" at me with their fingers, people agressively panhandling, yelling, etc. I've never been assaulted, but I take precautions. I avoid entirely if time permits, but barring that.. I discretely run red lights to avoid stopping. (a real advantage to being on a bike.) I make sure my tires are in working order and properly inflated. And I NEVER get caught after dark. (Although I still regularly bike westward, eastside-to-Tosa, after dark; but I stick like glue to the Wisconsin Ave corridor and make certain not to get stopped at the traffic lights on 27th or 34th.)

And don't expect your cellphone to bail you out if you get into trouble -- police response is glacial in those areas compared to east side. (The city is addressing that now with precinct redistricting, but it will probably take time for any noticeable results.)

Why oh why are you biking in those areas still if you know how it is???? God, please stop biking there!

[AppOllO1990]

[quote=tully;1991281]This demographic map will give interested parties a pretty clear idea of areas to avoid (it shows 1990 vs 2000 census info):
http://www.uwm.edu/~margo/mke2000/domirace.pdf
there are several striking things: the growth of the black and hispanic areas, the NW migration of blacks, the continuing dominance of whites east of Milwaukee River, and the stark racial division in general. (note: area between black and hispanic is the I-94)

. I'm a white cyclist (20 years in milw now), and have gone into the North area many times, and seen some scary things-- people cutting in front of me (in car and on foot) as if I wasn't there, people making the "gun gesture" at me with their fingers, people agressively panhandling, yelling, etc.
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thats cause nobody likes cyclist

[AppOllO1990]

i messed the qoute box up

[JS20000]

Certain areas in Milwaukee may be rough, but when was the last time Milwaukee was on Morgan Quitno's list of Ten Most Dangerous Cities? I am not intimidated by any of Milwaukee's neighborhoods; I travel through the north side all the time and I have not seen any blight or seedy characters that could compare to other places, larger or smaller. I'm glad I do live in a place as safe as Milwaukee. I think the media does a lot to bruit such inaccurate perceptions of an inner city environment (I know it's a tired cliche). People in the 'hood' are not lying in wait for hapless white suburbanites to stumble through their streets looking for an entrance ramp. The majority are simply living their lives.
The argument that the residual psychological impact of slavery and Jim Crow is a viable explanation for the present day black person's psyche is unfounded. It does nothing but foster the mentality of victimization and the attitude that "government dues" are due. There is historical evidence to disprove this argument but I believe it is more beneficial to have those with the interest perform their own research.
Getting back to Milwaukee, the large-scale gentrification on the East side, the epicenter of which appears to be near Prospect and Brady, will not filter into the surrounding areas unless it is seen as being economically fortuitous for developers. The continued development along the lakefront will only accelerate the class/culture divide. Avoiding entire communities out of concerns for safety can over time create a general ignorance of the particularities of the denizens and lifestyle of those communities (it also works the other way as well-city people are not too well adept in suburban life). This further serves to drive a wedge between the two because it re-establishes the model of a salad bowl (Old Milwaukee)-ethnic enclaves that are content to live in fear of each other.

[ffknight918]

Originally Posted by JS20000

Certain areas in Milwaukee may be rough, but when was the last time Milwaukee was on Morgan Quitno's list of Ten Most Dangerous Cities?

That's a very good point. Milwaukee as a whole really isn't bad at all. They crime may look terrible compared to the suburbs or other "larger" cities in WI, but that's because it's completely different which some people don't see. Compared to other large cities, it isn't that bad at all.

There are definitely some areas that some may want to avoid. I guess some could even be as bad as in a few other very dangerous cities. However areas like this are so isolated that there's no reason that a person should be there anyway. Also, the people that sit around and worry about it all the time are the only ones that may need to worry at all. Casually passing through is not a big deal. Walking through extremely scared acting like you are better is what causes problems.

I've walked through Compton(got off the subway to use the bathroom at McDonalds accidentally. Didn't realize that it was Compton until the LACo Sherriff talked to be before boarding again. After finding out I was a firefighter, he actually escorted me onto the train. haha), South Central LA(stayed in a pretty bad part for a few nights, SE Washington DC, and North St Louis. I got a few weird looks in DC, but just kept walking and wasn't even talked to by anyone. It was no big deal to me so it was no big deal to them.

[kim-e-lou]

We are moving to Milwaukee next spring. My husband got a job at St. Joseph Hospital. It looks to me like this hospital is in that 'worst' part of Milwaukee that everyone is talking about. Is this a terrible place to be working? I've heard that St. Joseph's was a wonderful hospital. Am I wrong?

We obviously won't try living in the neighborhood now that I know a little about it. But should I be worried about my white husband traveling to and from work?

[quijote]

Originally Posted by kim-e-lou

We are moving to Milwaukee next spring. My husband got a job at St. Joseph Hospital. It looks to me like this hospital is in that 'worst' part of Milwaukee that everyone is talking about. Is this a terrible place to be working? I've heard that St. Joseph's was a wonderful hospital. Am I wrong?

We obviously won't try living in the neighborhood now that I know a little about it. But should I be worried about my white husband traveling to and from work?

Actually, St. Joseph's is in the Sherman Park neighborhood, which is really quite nice. It's one of the few truly integrated neighborhoods in Milwaukee--blacks, whites, Asians, Orthodox Jews, and many other kinds of people. It's still urban and has some city problems, so it may not be for you anyway, but it's a good neighborhood.

[Eshea]

I agree with quijote- The homes in Sherman Park are beautiful. If the neighborhood surrounding the hospital makes you uneasy, there is always Tosa to consider. Close to the hospital, but more of a suburban feel.
I love St. Joes, I used to work there and had my son there. I live closer to St.Marys now, so it made more sense to switch.