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Old 06-28-2013, 08:12 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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Maybe you don't know what a hipster is. I certainly know what a hipster is. Just like I know what pornography is.

In case you don't understand my reference:

To the general public, Stewart may be best known for a quotation, or a fragment thereof, from his opinion in the obscenity case of Jacobellis v. Ohio (1964). Stewart wrote in his short concurrence that "hard-core pornography" was hard to define, but that "I know it when I see it."[12] Usually dropped from the quote is the remainder of that sentence, "and the motion picture involved in this case is not that." Justice Stewart went on to defend the movie in question against further censorship. One noted commentator opined that: "This observation summarizes Stewart's judicial philosophy: particularistic, intuitive, and pragmatic."[12] Justice Stewart later recanted this view in Miller v. California, in which he accepted that his prior view was simply untenable.
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Old 07-01-2013, 07:45 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Look, everyone knows that quote, and I actually figured I'd see it sooner that the 3rd page. The truth is that your definition of pornography and your definition of hipster says more about you than it does about the subject - if this weren't true, it would be easy to formulate a generic definition that would work across the board. Since there is no definition that works (and you're offering up several paragraphs, when even the most complex words in the dictionary can be defined in a sentence or two), there is no such thing as a "hipster." Outside of "people HyperionGap does not like."
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:30 AM
 
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No such thing as a hipsters? You make me laugh.

I bet there were no such thing as beatniks, hippies, or impressionist painters either.

How's this for a more concise 2 sentence definition, funny guy.

Hipster refers to a subculture of young, urban middle-class adults and older teenagers that appeared in the 1990s. The subculture is associated with independent music, a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility, progressive or independent political views, alternative spirituality or atheism/agnosticism, and alternative lifestyles.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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"The subculture is associated with (things common across the entire age bracket) and the tautology "hipster" music/fashion/politics/food/lifestyles and other non-specific pabulum."

So how do you differentiate every single "young, urban middle-class adult and older teenager" from a "hipster?" Especially since the term was first used (and used A LOT) in the 1940s, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture), not the 1990s. No one has called himself a hipster since the 1950s, pal, this is about what you want to call young adults. Beatniks, hippies and impressionists came up with those terms and self-referenced themselves, "hipsters" do not. There is absolutely zero connective tissue you can define and not a single member of this supposed subculture would reference the term back to himself. This is you calling random people you don't understand names.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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What's the difference between hipsters & scenesters? Hmmm, I'm gonna say scenesters are the Third Ward type & hipsters are Riverwest/East side. And that's all I have to say. This thread is pretty stupid.
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:48 PM
 
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This thread is pretty stupid.
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Old 07-01-2013, 02:19 PM
 
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Maybe the Los Angeles hipsters are just so far advanced in to ultra-cutting-edge hipsterism that Milwaukeeans don't recognize them as hipsters.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Riverwest, MKE
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No such thing as a hipsters? You make me laugh.

Hipster refers to a subculture of young, urban middle-class adults and older teenagers that appeared in the 1990s. The subculture is associated with independent music, a varied non-mainstream fashion sensibility, progressive or independent political views, alternative spirituality or atheism/agnosticism, and alternative lifestyles.
This is why I'm always suspicious of people who use words like hipster... It always seems to be used by people who either can't comprehend or have a hard time dealing with ambiguity.

There's some pretty stark differences between people who fit under all of those categories. You don't think a person who likes folk music is going to have some stark differences with someone who likes underground hip hop? Or that a person whose an ardent Obama supporter would have with a Libertarian or an Anarchist? Or that a Buddhist would have with an atheist? Under your definition, all of these people would qualify as "hipsters."

Maybe some people just don't like Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga. Or care for high fashion. Or conservative politics. Or find main-line Christianity (and the bigotry/homophobia therein) irrelevant to modern life. It REALLY doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.

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This thread is pretty stupid.
Most intelligent comment in this entire discussion.
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Old 07-01-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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I guess I answered my question as to whether hipsters are much less prevalent in Milwaukee compared to LA; otherwise everybody and their mother would know what I'm talking about.
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Old 07-02-2013, 08:24 AM
 
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This is why I'm always suspicious of people who use words like hipster... It always seems to be used by people who either can't comprehend or have a hard time dealing with ambiguity.

There's some pretty stark differences between people who fit under all of those categories. You don't think a person who likes folk music is going to have some stark differences with someone who likes underground hip hop? Or that a person whose an ardent Obama supporter would have with a Libertarian or an Anarchist? Or that a Buddhist would have with an atheist? Under your definition, all of these people would qualify as "hipsters."

Maybe some people just don't like Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga. Or care for high fashion. Or conservative politics. Or find main-line Christianity (and the bigotry/homophobia therein) irrelevant to modern life. It REALLY doesn't have to be any more complicated than that.



Most intelligent comment in this entire discussion.
Amen. You said it much better than I.
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