Milwaukee subways (Waukesha, Richfield, Grafton: renting, living, cost)

[EnjoyEP]

Originally Posted by south-to-west

However, I think Milwaukee would be a great city for bus rapid transit (BRT), which is like light rail, but uses articulated buses. It's a lot cheaper than light rail, but has many of the same conveniences and even similar levels of efficiency in that it uses a separate right-of-way. Even better, once demand reaches the necessary level to warrant light rail, BRT lines can be easily upgraded to light rail lines.

See, this is exactly the type of reasonable, actually a practical solution to consider.

Sadly though, it isn't "sexy" to cities like light rail, so people don't give things like this nearly as much thought.

[Lookout Kid]

Subway is O.K., but I prefer Potbelly's or Jimmy John's.

[EnjoyEP]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

Subway is O.K., but I prefer Potbelly's or Jimmy John's.

Or Cousins or Suburpia!

[south-to-west]

Originally Posted by Lookout Kid

Subway is O.K., but I prefer Potbelly's or Jimmy John's.

No self-respecting Milwaukeean would leave Cousins off a list of preferred sub shops!

[Fishtacos]

Originally Posted by ffknight918

St Louis has a small light rail system. St Louis is about half of the size of Milwaukee. I think that it would make a lot of sense. Maybe stop a few places downtown, the airport, the college campuses, and the suburbs.

Actually, no. St. Louis County is not part of St. Louis City. This isn't the case in many other places. You need to add St. Louis County to St. Louis city for density, square miles, etc...Several stops on the St. Louis Metrolink fall in St. Louis County very close to the city. St. Louis needs to expand their light rail system at a more rapid pace.

St. Louis is much bigger than Milwaukee.

[supernerdgirl]

Originally Posted by Drover

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE AS EVIDENCED BY THIS HERE POST... MAYBE IT DEPENDS ON IF YOU'RE A NEWBIE OR NOT?

hahah! well, then, i have no earthly idea why someone would take the time to Type Like This. *shrug*

[Drover]

Originally Posted by south-to-west

No self-respecting Milwaukeean would leave Cousins off a list of preferred sub shops!

I dunno, when in Wisconsin, gotta go with Erbert & Gerbert or Miliano's. Why? Because the founders of those two places and Jimmy John's are all related. (Ironically, I believe they are all cousins, but not related to Cousins.)

All other times though, gotta go with Jimmy John's. Back when I was in college, my stupid little college town didn't have much going for it, but we did have the only Jimmy John's that existed at the time before it branched out.

We now return you to your normally scheduled thread.

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by EnjoyEP

See, this is exactly the type of reasonable, actually a practical solution to consider.

Sadly though, it isn't "sexy" to cities like light rail, so people don't give things like this nearly as much thought.

I'd ride it. (I might be the only one).

The whole idea with trains is that they aren't subject to traffic jams. They can get delayed, but not as easily.

So if a bus--or whatever--can get you there FAST, cheap, and with little stress, it merits looking into. Personally, if I'm going to sit in traffic (which Milwaukee hardly has any of, BTW) I'd rather sit in my own car and choose my own route. But there is great advantage to traveling a dedicated, open route. I'm just not sure that there's enough congestion to get people to ride it.

Yet.

[south-to-west]

Originally Posted by Drover

I dunno, when in Wisconsin, gotta go with Erbert & Gerbert or Miliano's. Why? Because the founders of those two places and Jimmy John's are all related. (Ironically, I believe they are all cousins, but not related to Cousins.)

All other times though, gotta go with Jimmy John's. Back when I was in college, my stupid little college town didn't have much going for it, but we did have the only Jimmy John's that existed at the time before it branched out.

We now return you to your normally scheduled thread.

One last deviation from the topic...Milano's is unbelievable. I lived on Milano's when I was in school at Madison.

[SouthernGuyLivinginWI]

Public transportation is must for any big city to survive. MKE is failing here and big time. Light rail is a maybe, and small m on maybe. We need the light rail system but most of the people out here where I live in Waukesha county are afraid that if light rail comes in, that the blacks and hispanic people in MKE will come out and rob their houses and marry their daughters. And since most out here can afford a car (or two or three) and 3 dollar gas....they see no reason to be forward thinking about the days when gas will be 10 bucks a gallon.

As far as a subway..NOT gonna happen. The deep tunnel project downtown has created enough issues by digging under the old buildings downtown and draining off the water that surrounds the pilings that the buildings are built on. (Boston Store is sinking and will cost millions to correct the issue. More are being studied) A subway under downtown MKE would sink a lot of buildings. Most subways were built in an era when most utilities were above ground..Power & phone, and few places had gas lines. Now with the infrastructure of MKE, it would cost tens of millions just to move those utilities, not to mention the disruption of major street dug up for years.