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Old 01-11-2009, 04:17 PM
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True, a well regulated militia (police, national guard) does have the right to keep and bear arms.
I love it when you are wrong. I don't expect you to admit it, though. In fact, I'm sure you'll ignore it like you ignored that entire post minus the point you thought you had.

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The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
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Old 01-11-2009, 04:30 PM
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well that is a relief there are no bad guys, so if we get raped or shot it wont hurt as much?
What the hell are you talking about? Perhaps if you wrote in a coherent fashion I would be able to understand this gibberish.

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its just poverty---- simply eliminate it and no one would dream of harming me.
Do you honestly believe someone is out there "dreaming" about harming you?

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we are the richest country on earth and have one of the highest crime rates.
That's because our news-media gets us all hopped up on irrational fear and paranoia, couple that with the fact we have guns everywhere, and you have a recipe for disaster. I highly recommend watching Bowling For Columbine sometime.

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everybody on the hood thinks they are poor. you dont know poor i know poor,
Did you grow up in Somalia or Bosnia? How exactly do you know poor, but nobody else does?

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you think everybody in france is eating 5 course meals and drinking coffee on champs elysee. not so friend.
Don't tell me what I think, douche bag. I do know for a fact that France enjoys a much better quality of life and the French live longer than Americans. If you saw Sicko you'd know not only do the French not pay a dime out of pocket for their health services, the government also provides nannies to wash you clothes and cook your dinner. Sicko Is Socko - TIME
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Old 01-11-2009, 04:39 PM
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I love it when you are wrong. I don't expect you to admit it, though. In fact, I'm sure you'll ignore it like you ignored that entire post minus the point you thought you had.



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What exactly is your point? So you think any male over age 17, citizen or not, has the right to own guns? I doubt it. The definition you posted was refering to who is eligible to join the armed forces and essentially did nothing to further your point of view. Try again.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:20 PM
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What exactly is your point? So you think any male over age 17, citizen or not, has the right to own guns? I doubt it. The definition you posted was refering to who is eligible to join the armed forces and essentially did nothing to further your point of view. Try again.
Are you daft? Are you unable to comprehend the written word?

The militia of the United States consists of every able-bodied male over 17. It is codified in Title X United States Code Section 311. Look it up if you doubt me. That wasn't a definition I posted; it is the text of the United States Code. It was passed in 1903 as part of the Militia Act of 1903, which established the National Guard.

Apparently, firearms scare you to death, and you only believe the police and the military should own them. While I believe that point of view is myopic and suicidal, let me change gears here. Is this the type of person you want responsible for your safety? Is this POLICE OFFICER safer and more professional than citizen gun owners?


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Old 01-11-2009, 05:37 PM
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The "old west" analogy while entertaining, is not realistic.
Firearms are not hard to use and are nothing more that a tool. Do not be afraid of them

Throughout history, there have been bad people and bad governments. It is your right to be able to defend yourself and your family. You should tell your representative gov't that you want/need the ability to excercise your right.

For the most part, police are around for 3 reasons:
1) clean up messes,
2) help determine what happened and
3) generate revenue for gov't.

They are not there to protect you. The Supreme court has repeatedly ruled that gov't (i.e police) are not obligated to "protect" you. This is why is it fruitless to sue the gov't if you think inadequate response was provided to your 911 call. There are hundreds of incidents where no help arrived when summoned and there is nothing you can do about it.

In recent history of this country, just the presence of private firearms has prevented huge violence and mayhem when the police vacated areas. Check out the history of LA riots, post hurricane Miami and New Orleans and various race riots in the 60's. Private citizen defense of property and family kept further disaster from occuring when the police were no where to be found. For rthe most part, shots are not even fired. Bad guys will stay away for areas where they know private firearms are present. The Asian store owners of LA learned this and thus protected their stores and homes from the mob looting.

Peopel who do not acknowledge reality may be in big trouble if they rely on gov't to protect them.

Another thought tickler - How do you defend yourself from your gov't if it decides to go bad??

"An armed soceity is a polite soceity" Al Capone

In the Chicago suburb of Lake Forest, any sort of crime was rare why? Well many of the Outfit's "upper management" lived there. If you by accident committed a crime against someone connected with the mob (which did happen on occasion) you most likley faced a horrible death.

I know on milwaukee's east side I have heard/ read about at least 8 muggings and beatings. . A guy I knew was robbed at gun point while cutting thru a park off of Locust/humboldt. A rabbi was almost beaten to death in Riverwest, the police never even bothered to question him while he was in a hospital bed. I also read of a few college students being robbed at knife point, others beaten at night. A pizza delivery guy was killed there a few years ago as well. One pizza place I went to when I was there was completely covered in bullet proof glass because it was robbed so many times. I think if the economy gets worse you will see more robbings.

If a law like that was approved, I am not sure I would buy a gun unless I was in a real bad area. But under certain circumstances, being armed may not be a bad idea
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:45 PM
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Are you daft? Are you unable to comprehend the written word?

The militia of the United States consists of every able-bodied male over 17. It is codified in Title X United States Code Section 311. Look it up if you doubt me. That wasn't a definition I posted; it is the text of the United States Code. It was passed in 1903 as part of the Militia Act of 1903, which established the National Guard.

Apparently, firearms scare you to death, and you only believe the police and the military should own them. While I believe that point of view is myopic and suicidal, let me change gears here. Is this the type of person you want responsible for your safety? Is this POLICE OFFICER safer and more professional than citizen gun owners?


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I'm quite familiar with the Oscar Grant shooting. I find it curious how people like you are champions of the downtrodden when it's convenient for you, but the rest of the time you would probably applaud the police for killing another innocent, unarmed, young Black man.

FYI, I'm not scared of guns, just gun-nuts. You need your cold hard steel to make-up for your inadequate, tiny penis.
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:10 PM
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I'm quite familiar with the Oscar Grant shooting. I find it curious how people like you are champions of the downtrodden when it's convenient for you, but the rest of the time you would probably applaud the police for killing another innocent, unarmed, young Black man.

FYI, I'm not scared of guns, just gun-nuts. You need your cold hard steel to make-up for your inadequate, tiny penis.
Well, you got me there. My penis is rather inadequate. It's only about 4 inches, and women laugh at it all the time. That's why I like guns so much...they don't judge. Actually, once or twice a day I will grab a pistol and caress it while jerking off. Occasionally a rifle if I had a bad day or something. But don't tell anyone, cause it's my little secret.

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True, a well regulated militia (police, national guard) does have the right to keep and bear arms.
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." -George Mason

You may also want to research the MIlitia Act of 1792 a bit: Militia Act of 1792 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All able bodied males were required from 1792 until 1903 to have firearms and ammunition. After 1903 that requirement was dropped but to this day the militia is the people. The police are civilians not military in case you thought that by the way.

And of course, you have heard of D.C. versus Heller haven't you? Only a matter of time before WI's laws are challenged in federal courts, because while openly carrying a gun is legal (except within 1,000 feet of schools and in certain other areas) police routinely illegally harass, detain, arrest, wrongly charge with disorderly conduct, etc., those who do so in WI.
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FYI, I'm not scared of guns, just gun-nuts. You need your cold hard steel to make-up for your inadequate, tiny penis.
Tell that to all the women who own and carry guns. Of which there are many.
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Old 01-11-2009, 09:13 PM
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Yeah you do need guns to protect yourself fom the cops



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