Does Milwaukee have a lot of beautiful areas? Nice parks? Historic neighborhoods? Or is it all pretty much ugly? Thanks (Wauwatosa: appointed, rental)

[karfar]

Originally Posted by Fishtacos

No Milwaukee is pretty much all ugly. Everyone who lives or lived there comes to this forum because Milwaukee has zero redeeming qualities and is an awful place. 100% of it is awful.

Is Denver all pretty much ugly? (question was rhetorical)

Now now, some people don't know any better. Denver is good in ways just like Milwaukee is I'm sure. Hey, they've got mountains at least! But we've got Lake Michigan

[wanderlusting]

Denver is smoggy, and because of the elevation, the air is thinner to begin with. I lived there for just about three months and got sick and had to come back to Milwaukee.

[karfar]

Well that's a bummer. I've noticed a lovely layer of brown while driving over the Hoan bridge, yuk

[wanderlusting]

Yep, we have pollution too, but it doesn't get trapped in a bowl here. You have courage for driving over the Hoan bridge! I try to speed over that thing as fast as I can. Thank God we don't live in an earthquake zone. That thing would be taken down by a 6.0

[karfar]

The Hoan is faster than KK, people drive under the speed limit on KK, drives me nuts. Although I'm neurotic enough that every time I drive on that bridge I picture my car flying thru the air right onto the Port below. Actually, someone a few months ago took a dive off there, deliberately. I saw all the cops looking down. Not pretty.

[Milwaukee Ronnie]

Originally Posted by karfar

Well that's a bummer. I've noticed a lovely layer of brown while driving over the Hoan bridge, yuk

Probably due to soils runoff. The Milwaukee, Menomonee and KK River watersheds, which empty into Lake Michigan at the Hoan Bridge, cover a huge area of Southeastern Wisconsin, most of which is in rural or suburban areas. When it rains (or when snow melts) the soils from this watershed get carried to the Lake.

[Milwaukee Ronnie]

Wow, sounds like we've got some paranoid folks here ... scared to drive over the Hoan? Don't worry about it -- the best structural engineers in the country have worked on that bridge. You're a million times more likely to get hurt crossing the street or simply driving through an intersection than to have that bridge fall out from under you.

[karfar]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee Ronnie

Wow, sounds like we've got some paranoid folks here ... scared to drive over the Hoan? Don't worry about it -- the best structural engineers in the country have worked on that bridge. You're a million times more likely to get hurt crossing the street or simply driving through an intersection than to have that bridge fall out from under you.

No paranoia, just neurosis

[karfar]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee Ronnie

Probably due to soils runoff. The Milwaukee, Menomonee and KK River watersheds, which empty into Lake Michigan at the Hoan Bridge, cover a huge area of Southeastern Wisconsin, most of which is in rural or suburban areas. When it rains (or when snow melts) the soils from this watershed get carried to the Lake.

The brown layer I mentioned was in the air, as in smog-I don't see it every day, but it's there

[wanderlusting]

The Hoan is faster than KK, people drive under the speed limit on KK, drives me nuts. Although I'm neurotic enough that every time I drive on that bridge I picture my car flying thru the air right onto the Port below. Actually, someone a few months ago took a dive off there, deliberately. I saw all the cops looking down. Not pretty.

I remember hearing about that. I think it was an older man in his sixties. Sad.....

Wow, sounds like we've got some paranoid folks here ... scared to drive over the Hoan? Don't worry about it -- the best structural engineers in the country have worked on that bridge. You're a million times more likely to get hurt crossing the street or simply driving through an intersection than to have that bridge fall out from under you.

That's reassuring. I don't avoid the bridge, but don't go out of my way to go over it. If I have to drive over it, I will. Since that incident in Dec 2000 and the bridge collapse in Minneapolis, I just think about it more. But life goes on and you gotta live....