Greater Milwaukee

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by tone_bone25

Here are some suburbs:
Shorewood, Whitefish Bay, West Allis, Wauwatosa, Greenfield, Bayview...
These areas directly border the actual city limits of Milwaukee. Anything else is its own entity!

I'm interested that Bay View has been listed as a "suburb" not once, but twice in this thread. It's not a suburb. It's not even a municipality. It doesn't border the city, it IS the city.

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee Ronnie

It seems that people in Milwaukee's suburbs, more so than suburbanites in a lot of other metro areas, really buy into the fallacy that they "live out in the country" and are not tethered to any urban area. Folks in Germantown, a whole 20 miles from Downtown Milwaukee, think they live "way out" in the countryside somewhere, and only "happen" to live within proximity to the city of Milwaukee.

I understand people's desire to live in the country. But if you're going to go around claiming that you live in the country, then go whole-hog with it. Buy a farm and start working it, get a job in feed mill or something and move out into the real sticks in Bumbleberry, Iowa. Live where you want to. But when you live in a place like Germantown, the very reason you don't work on a farm or a feedmill is because of the city of Milwaukee. Suburbanites owe their jobs and their standard of living to the very urban center that they repudiate. They trying to have it both ways, which is their right if they can afford it. But it's not sustainable, and it's a way of life that's not going to last very long under $5 gasoline.

Yes. This is why Cadott, WI has gained 24 people (1.7%) since 1990, yet the "country aire of Germantown" is populated by an additional thirty percent over the same period of time.

So much for the theory of inner ring suburbs being the only ones linked to the city!

Let's check Oconomowoc, WI (suburb): 22% since 1990.
How about Minong (rural): 4%
Caledonia (suburb): 17%
Mukwonago (burb): 34%
Prarie Du Chien (rural): 1.5%
Mequon (burb): 20%
Menomonee Falls: 22%
Brookfield: 11%, a lot for an already-established suburb

The suburban gains are much more than the ~30,000 something people who left Milwaukee since the 1990 figures were published and the revised figures released.

Interestingly, Chenequa (pop 500-something) went down two percent. I guess a few Quadraccis must have moved out of the town limits. But neighboring Merton--where the residents would probably deny the existence of a city effect--gained a whopping 1600 people... from 1199 to 2791!

And Merton's gains weren't because of the local feed mill industry.

[Milwaukee Ronnie]

Originally Posted by 43north87west

I'm interested that Bay View has been listed as a "suburb" not once, but twice in this thread. It's not a suburb. It's not even a municipality. It doesn't border the city, it IS the city.

Very common misconception. And one of my little pet peeves. Bay View is as part of the City of Milwaukee as Downtown or Riverwest. It is not, nor will ever likely be, a distinct and seperate municipality.

Bay View actually used to be a seperate town, however, and was annexed by the City in the early 20th Century. So that might have something to do with the misconception. I also think a lot of old school Bay View residents like to be thought of as "seperate" from the City.

Another one that gets me is South Milwaukee. There are still those who apparently haven't gotten the memo that South Milwaukee is a seperate and distinct municipality, wholely apart and distinguished from the South SIDE OF Milwaukee.

Hell, I still meet people that don't get that Shorewood is a suburb.

[EnjoyEP]

Originally Posted by Milwaukee Ronnie

Another one that gets me is South Milwaukee. There are still those who apparently haven't gotten the memo that South Milwaukee is a seperate and distinct municipality, wholely apart and distinguished from the South SIDE OF Milwaukee.

If you think South Milwaukee is bad in folks not realizing it is a separate city (and it is), even more so - West Milwaukee!

Most folks don't even know that there is a community existing known as West Milwaukee, and if they do, they think it is just referring to the geographically western portion of the City of Milwaukee.

It is extremely small, but like South Milwaukee, West Milwaukee exists as its own community.

[bluemozez]

I am a former resident born and raised in Racine. Racine is in an odd situation. The only people who claim Racine is a part of the Milwaukee Metro are statisticians or people from Milwaukee. Never in my twenty years of living there did I ever say nor hear that I live in the Milwaukee suburbs. As a person posted earlier, Racine has it's own towns and suburs surrounding it. Caledonia and Mt. Pleasant have close to 25,000 residents each. Those two along with Sturtevant, Wind Point, Elmwood Park, North Bay, and Franksville are RACINE suburbs. They continue to grow as the city of Racine's population declines. IMO as well as most others from the Racine Vicinity, we're kind of alone in terms of Kenosha is now a part of Chicago, and Milwaukee Metro ends at Oak Creek. As of 2003, the Racine Metro area ranked number 204 in the US with a code number of 39540 and population of 191,012 according to proximityone.com

[43north87west]

Originally Posted by bluemozez

I am a former resident born and raised in Racine. Racine is in an odd situation. The only people who claim Racine is a part of the Milwaukee Metro are statisticians or people from Milwaukee. Never in my twenty years of living there did I ever say nor hear that I live in the Milwaukee suburbs. As a person posted earlier, Racine has it's own towns and suburs surrounding it. Caledonia and Mt. Pleasant have close to 25,000 residents each. Those two along with Sturtevant, Wind Point, Elmwood Park, North Bay, and Franksville are RACINE suburbs. They continue to grow as the city of Racine's population declines. IMO as well as most others from the Racine Vicinity, we're kind of alone in terms of Kenosha is now a part of Chicago, and Milwaukee Metro ends at Oak Creek. As of 2003, the Racine Metro area ranked number 204 in the US with a code number of 39540 and population of 191,012 according to proximityone.com

Greater Milwaukee aka the Milwaukee Metropolitan Area includes Racine County. The Milwaukee metropolitan area does not end at the Milwaukee County line.

Kenosha County is part of Chicagoland. There is a Joliet, IL "Metropolitan Area" as well, but it is part of Chicagoland. Joliet residents can say they have an independent "Metropolitan Area" but if so, like Racine, it has been engulfed by larger cities and is experiencing growth that is largely fueled by those cities.