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Old 08-04-2007, 06:27 PM
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WOW...... I CANNOT BELIEVE IT I KNOW I CAME IN ON THE END OF THE CONVO AND ALL BUT SIR EVERYTHING I JUST READ PISSED ME OFF. THIS ONE IS COMING FROM THE GIRL THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN THE KID PLAYING IN THE LAKE JUMPING IN YOUR RIDE TO GO HOME...

I MUST HAVE NOT READ IT ALL, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT AN APPLAUSE OR SOMETHING... OKAY SO YOU DID A COUPLE OF "GOOD DEEDS" IN THE "GHETTO" BUT SIR TRY LIVING IT EVERYDAY ALL DAY NOT DROPPING THEM OFF AT HOME AND GOING HOME TO TELL YOUR WIFE AND KIDS HOW SAD IT WAS BUT ACTUALLY LIVING IT.... YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE... ITS A VERY NOBLE THING YOUTH WORK IS PERIOD ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU CAN GAIN SOME CONTROL OVER OFTEN ROWDY INNER CITY KIDS.... BUT IF YOU CANT COUNT OFF AND NAME EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DONE.... YOU HAVEN'T DONE NEARLY ENOUGH.... I WON'T BRAG OR BOAST ON ANYTHING I HAVE DONE BUT I WILL SAY THIS I HAVE DONE YOUTH WORK IN MY HOOD MY NEIGHBORHOODS SINCE I WAS 15 MENTORING NINE YEAR OLDS TEACHING THEM THE IMPORTANCE OF ABSTAINING FROM NEGATIVE ACTIVITIES... BUT I COULD NEVER REMEMBER EVERY SINGLE ACT OF KINDNESS. YES THERE ARE UNFORGETTABLE MOMENTS BUT YOU WEREN'T IN THE TRENCHES... YOU WENT HOME... NO KIDS KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AFTER SCHOOL LOOKING FOR FOOD... NOT TO MENTION WORKING WITH SHORT TEMPERED TEENAGE BOYS THAT THREATEN YOU BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE BUT YOU KEEP COMING BACK AND SHOW THEM THE ATTENTION THEY NEED... YOU GET TO GO HOME AT NIGHT.... YOU DONT SEE IT ALL DAY LONG... ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW.... GRANTED I DONT KNOW YOU BUT I CAN TELL THAT EITHER YOU ARENT REALLY A HUMBLE PERSON HAVING TO RUN OFF YOUR LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS OR YOU DONT REALLY HAVE A CLUE... YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE...

YOU TOOK THEM HOME BUT DID YOU MAKE SURE THEY HAD BREAKFAST THE NEXT MORNING SO THEY COULD CONCENTRATE IN SCHOOL

DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO CONCENTRATE ON READING AND WRITING WHEN YOU HAVENT EATEN ANYTHING... I DO
No good deed goes unpunished. Getting responses like this is enough to make some people wonder why they bother.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:01 AM
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At least I have some insight on Milwaukee. I asked about Milwaukee's reputation because being a resident of metro Atlanta, I find Atlanta very overrated, and in many ways dissapointing. I believed that Milwaukee could be a better place. Then again, I only went there for vacation and I haven't spent much time there. I an glad to here some of the good in Milwaukee.


If youre Black,stay in Atlanta.Milwaukees black on black murder rate is higher than Atlantas (Consider the fact that Milwaukees murder rate,overwhelmingly black like Atlantas,is nearly equal To Atlantas (According to Moderator cut: linking to competitors sites is not allowed with almost half the black population(percentage wise). Milwaukee's black unemployment and imprisonment rate are higher than Atlantas.Milwaukee is considered to be statisticly the worst city in America to be black.

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Old 08-05-2007, 06:51 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished. Getting responses like this is enough to make some people wonder why they bother.
REALLY ........
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:25 PM
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Newsflash.... If I can afford it I should be able to live there.... I dont need to go into a jewelry store in brookfield and ask to try a piece on and have them tell me how much it costs... If I wanted to know that I would have asked... I don't need to drive through shorewood and be pulled over for something simple like not displaying a front plate when we all know the real reasons... Black girl, nice car, nice neighborhood, something doesn't register... Its sad and you may want to keep on your rose colored glasses, but its true.

Its sad and its true that while in college there were 3 to 4 blacks in each class.... but you only see 3 to 4 white people in each dorm at our correctional facilities.

Its sad that when I enter an establishment ready to spemnd my money that I earn I am made to feel uncomfortable so I leave...
I can totally relate to this!!! I'm not going to retype what I wrote in my previous post(s) (you can go back & read them), but you are feeling the same way I was when I was there. This is the best time to leave Milwaukee, while you have no responsibilties but yourself. All of my friends that have moved out of Milwaukee (including myself)are doing twice as better & are happier then they were when they lived there. The city is not very welcoming to up & coming middle class blacks, so what to they do.....LEAVE for other cities. Just like me & lots of others do every year. It's very unfortunate that Milwaukee has not yet realized that the black middle class is a very vital part of a city economy. From my own experience of living there a big part of my life & hearing the experiences of others, it's not a good city for an educated middle class black person to live or work in. I say leave while you still can.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:14 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished. Getting responses like this is enough to make some people wonder why they bother.
The reason we BOTHER, is out of the goodness & kindness of our hearts, not because we expect anything in return, positive or negative. If it's such a BOTHER a person should not be volunteering. & if this is the career path they are in, maybe they should find another one.
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Old 08-06-2007, 05:21 AM
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Nonetheless, people who try to do good things should not be berated because it's not good enough. That's all I was saying, and I had no idea that would be such a controversial notion.
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Old 08-06-2007, 02:43 PM
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WOW...... I CANNOT BELIEVE IT I KNOW I CAME IN ON THE END OF THE CONVO AND ALL BUT SIR EVERYTHING I JUST READ PISSED ME OFF.
Did you know that ALL CAPS is the equivalent of yelling?

"I WON'T BRAG OR BOAST ON ANYTHING I HAVE DONE "

"Brag" is a term you elected to use, so is "boast". I merely recounted a few memorable events out of many. Consider it whatever you choose.

"YOU WENT HOME..."

Was that wrong of me to do so? Like you and anyone else, I still have to eat and sleep, and if I can manage to get in a few holes of golf before I have to go back to work, I'm going to do it. If you expect me to apologize, think again.

"YOU GET TO GO HOME AT NIGHT.... "

The horse died, moving on...

"NO KIDS KNOCKING ON YOUR DOOR AFTER SCHOOL LOOKING FOR FOOD..."

On my office door periodically. They got money. I'm sure there is fault with that too, just let me know what I did wrong by doing that so I don't do it again.

"YOU HAVEN'T DONE NEARLY ENOUGH.... "

Your post is a real gem.

Attudes like this are enough to dissuade a person from doing anything. I think someone else said "no good deed goes unpunished". That saying exists for a reason. This is an appropriate example. I'll remember this next time someone hits me up for a donation or assistance with something.

"NOT TO MENTION WORKING WITH SHORT TEMPERED TEENAGE BOYS... "

I can think of another example of short tempered...

"I CAN TELL THAT EITHER YOU ARENT REALLY A HUMBLE PERSON HAVING TO RUN OFF YOUR LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS..."

To paraphrase your post, I am a grandstanding, clueless, validation-seeking braggart. Worst. Person. Ever. Big stars and stripes tophat, flat pig nose, pink curly tail, hooves, and the ubiquitous cigar in my snout. Nice job.

"YOU DONT HAVE A CLUE..."

Another productive comment.

I'm quite sure I do not have a clue about some things, and have many more clues than you do about others. That's how people find their place in the world, if I'm not mistaken. So, having not shared your life, I can't have the same clues as you do, nor can you have the same clues or observations that I have. Becoming irate does not make it any more or less understood of a point. Actually, I'm not really sure I got your point to be honest.

Now, take a deep breath, throw it in reverse for a couple pages, and read my original post, which asks honest questions that have some bearing on the original thread. Maybe someone can conjure up enough self control to respond without coming apart.
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Old 08-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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If youre Black,stay in Atlanta.Milwaukees black on black murder rate is higher than Atlantas (Consider the fact that Milwaukees murder rate,overwhelmingly black like Atlantas,is nearly equal To Atlantas (According to Moderator cut: linking to competitors sites is not allowed with almost half the black population(percentage wise). Milwaukee's black unemployment and imprisonment rate are higher than Atlantas.Milwaukee is considered to be statisticly the worst city in America to be black.
Statistically, there are better places, but Atlanta has dissapointed me in so many ways. I speak from my personal experiences.

As for crime, Atlanta is getting more violent now.

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Old 08-07-2007, 07:34 PM
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Nonetheless, people who try to do good things should not be berated because it's not good enough. That's all I was saying, and I had no idea that would be such a controversial notion.
I never said it wasnt "good enough" I was saying he shouldnt have to run his list off like hes begging to be recognized or something...
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Old 08-07-2007, 07:40 PM
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43 north 87 west, regardless I still feel that the whole tone of what you had to say was kind of like poking out your chest like have you ever... and do you ... okay whatever everyone does good deeds but why should you have to get recognition for each one... and to try and put someone else down because they haven't done it... you make the hood sound like one big charity case... but i wouldnt expect you to understand.... and rather I use caps or lowercase I wont take back one word of what i had to say... !!!!!!!! is my equivalent of yelling...

Toodles...
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