Racial Tensions in Milwaukee? (Unity: buy, to live in, vs)

[brewtown12]

Originally Posted by Drover

Your posts have so many absurd factual assumptions that it would take weeks to unpack them all. Not to mention it probably wouldn't do any good. By the way, thanks for the negative rep. Grow up.

These arent ''assumptions'' at all,these are actual facts from the department of labor and other legitimate sources.You need to grow up,and stop ignoring the truth because it fits your little la la land where racism is a small problem.

[brewtown12]

Originally Posted by RomanInSF

You have demonstrated that you haven't the slightest clue what I believe but you have shown that your mind is as nimble as a slab of stone. You are not even aware that you are part of the problem so it's true that "ignorance is bliss." You demonstrate in the most inarticulate of fashions here that you bring that same old, tired black "self-empowerment", hate "whitey" rhetoric that has done nothing but lead to the enormous levels of black-on-black crime that plague cities like Milwaukee. The high crime rate indicates that an enormous number of black people have serious character flaws, preferring to take the low road rather than having some integrity and sense of positive direction. It is EASY to commit a crime and get thrown in jail, harder to stay up late nights, show discipline, determination, and resolve while earning a degree that matters. Why isn't the inner city a place where education is valued above all else? Continue the empty, meaningless rhetoric. Also, "Total empowerment is a term that is as outdated as processed hair, used by the uneducated to appear progressive. "Self-reliance" is the term I used and it starts with high academic achievement. Continue to deny this if you want, but until the more ignorant blacks quit killing each other and blaming "whitey" for their own lack of effort, there will be no business ownership. People don't want to be around ignorance, and it is prevalent in Milwaukee. So just stay out of the way.



No worries here. That one person won't be coming my way.

when did I say anything about ''hating whitey''.Just because one realizes a fact doesnt mean I ''hate'' any race.You have said many blanket statements regarding blacks,

The high crime rate indicates that an enormous number of black people have serious character flaws

.Its ok to make statements like this regarding blacks,but it is somehow negative to make statements about white discrimination?Ludacris.


I havent denied the importance of academic achievement,you fool.EVERYONE should have at least a high schoop diploma in this society,and if one does not want to enter college,a trade school of some sort is strongly recommnded.I merely realize that it has to be accompanied by the opportunity to utilize this education.Your standpoint assumes that it is blacks ourselves who are mostly at fault for our predictiment.This is not true, as educated blacks without a criminal record still suffer because of discrimination.

JS Online: Study shows how deeply black men face discrimination in hiring

The study demonstrates the increased odds black male ex-offenders face in finding employment and successfully reintegrating into the economic mainstream, says Lenard Wells, chairman of the Milwaukee Parole Commission and a former Milwaukee police officer.

"It's as if there's a concerted effort to keep black men from getting employment, to keep them oppressed," says Wells, former president of the League of Martin, an organization of black Milwaukee police officers.

"We say we want to reintegrate individuals into the community. We say that we want to do something about unemployment in the black community, yet we want to pretend that it's a criminal record that prevents blacks from getting jobs. It's blatant, undisputed, racism," he says.

There IS a lack of jobs in the black community.Something CAN be done about this.This is a factor in the high crime rate in black communities.This problem CAN be fixed.

[Alexus]

Originally Posted by brewtown12

These arent ''assumptions'' at all,these are actual facts from the department of labor and other legitimate sources.You need to grow up,and stop ignoring the truth because it fits your little la la land where racism is a small problem.

brewtown, answer this question. Why isn't the emphasis in the inner city of Milwaukee on high educational achievement rather than black on black crime? Instead of gangbanging, why aren't these young brothers excelling in school?

[brewtown12]

Originally Posted by RomanInSF

brewtown, answer this question. Why isn't the emphasis in the inner city of Milwaukee on high educational achievement rather than black on black crime? Instead of gangbanging, why aren't these young brothers excelling in school?

Actually the black ''gangs'' rarely engage in ''gang'' banging activity,violence is fueled more by personal situations.Nobody is shooting anyone for colors or how thier hat is worn in Milwaukee.

Why isnt the emphasis in the inner city of Milwaukee high education?For me and my family high education IS important.As for others,the reasons vary.There really is no reason to not at the least graduate high school or get a ged.Many of our brothers do this,and because of discrimination,are STILL denied job opportunties.



MY agenda is to reach out and help THESE types of young brothers.Not the idiots who do nothing to better thier situation.

[Alexus]

Originally Posted by brewtown12

when did I say anything about ''hating whitey''.Just because one realizes a fact doesnt mean I ''hate'' any race.You have said many blanket statements regarding blacks, .Its ok to make statements like this regarding blacks,but it is somehow negative to make statements about white discrimination?Ludacris.


I havent denied the importance of academic achievement,you fool.EVERYONE should have at least a high schoop diploma in this society,and if one does not want to enter college,a trade school of some sort is strongly recommnded.I merely realize that it has to be accompanied by the opportunity to utilize this education.Your standpoint assumes that it is blacks ourselves who are mostly at fault for our predictiment.This is not true, as educated blacks without a criminal record still suffer because of discrimination.

JS Online: Study shows how deeply black men face discrimination in hiring

There IS a lack of jobs in the black community.Something CAN be done about this.This is a factor in the high crime rate in black communities.This problem CAN be fixed.

I have already stated that racism exists, yes? I certainly agree that all blacks face discrimination. My contention is that there is discrimination, but so what? Each person must find a way around or through it to get where they want to be. This is not happening as the statistics show. Instead, blacks like you make excuses by blaming "whitey." It is a tired, tired argument.

In this global economy, with the discrimination that blacks face, and history of mistreatment, wouldn't you think blacks would face any amount of adversity to educate themselves, SO THAT THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND IS SUPERIOR TO ALL? At least a Masters is required today to compete, not a HS diploma. The fields that I already mentioned are perferred and critical in this regard. You are behind the times in your thinking.

About the lack of jobs in the black community, no community (black or otherwise) is going to thrive if its members don't first respect high educational achievement. This fundamental requirement is not being met in the black "community." As a result, the black community is continually the community of failure, underachievement, crime, violence, self-hatred, and low self-worth.

You must recognize.

[Alexus]

Actually the black ''gangs'' rarely engage in ''gang'' banging activity,violence is fueled more by personal situations.Nobody is shooting anyone for colors or how thier hat is worn in Milwaukee.

The problem is what they are NOT doing. They are not educating themselves. They are not preparing themselves to make positive contributions.

Why isnt the emphasis in the inner city of Milwaukee high education?For me and my family high education IS important.As for others,the reasons vary.There really is no reason to not at the least graduate high school or get a ged.Many of our brothers do this,and because of discrimination,are STILL denied job opportunties.

Good for you and your family. But the topic of this thread is about racial tensions in Milwaukee. My contention is that this is not made better by an incredibly large number of ignorant blacks (I'm not focusing on the other races here) who are simply ignorant and want to REMAIN that way. Again, in today's economy, having simply a HS diploma or a GED is not what one needs to compete. With a college degree so easy to attain now, it is almost an insult for a man to apply for a job without one.

MY agenda is to reach out and help THESE types of young brothers.Not the idiots who do nothing to better thier situation.

You're not doing a very good job of it by promoting racial separation and saying that a HS Diploma is all that one requires. These people have to aim higher than that to be competitive. There are great intrinsic benefits from obtaining high academic achievements as well.

[brewtown12]

I have already stated that racism exists, yes? I certainly agree that all blacks face discrimination. My contention is that there is discrimination, but so what?

This attitude accepts a low status in society.I disagree with your ''so what'' stance.Its the stance of a fool who believes he has to accept what is given to him.

Each person must find a way around or through it to get where they want to be.

As its stands now,yes,but blacks can create a network that helps one another acheive these goals.We dont have to take your ''fuq everyone else ,im just going to get mines and do nothing to help others'' mindstate.Blacks can have unity.

This is not happening as the statistics show. Instead, blacks like you make excuses by blaming "whitey." It is a tired, tired argument.

I blame whitey for what he is responsable for-subjecting blacks to a second class status in the labor market.Its not a ''tired arguement'',its a fact,and there are solutions to this problem.

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No community is going to thrive when its members that DO respect high educational achievement still are regarded as undesireable in the market place.which is the case now,because we depend on others to employ us.When we employ ourselves,this problem ceases.


The black community is not a community of failure.Unlike you,I do not see my people as sub human,and the white man as above us.We are not a community of failure,we are a community that is oppressed.We must always fight this oppression,not accept it like this fool Roman advocates.NEVER accept unjust treatment.

You must recognize.

[brewtown12]

The problem is what they are NOT doing. They are not educating themselves. They are not preparing themselves to make positive contributions.

This is a blanket statement.Opps,i guess since its about blacks,instead of whites,its ok in your book.Some of us ARE educating ourselves.

You're not doing a very good job of it by promoting racial separation and saying that a HS Diploma is all that one requires. These people have to aim higher than that to be competitive. There are great intrinsic benefits from obtaining high academic achievements as well

Youre liar who has a negative opinion of the black race and a positive opinion of the white race.I never said that a HS is all that one requires,I said that one should AT LEAST achieve this,and if not followed by college,trade school.

[brewtown12]

Originally Posted by RomanInSF

and quite a negative generalization about white people.

Instead, blacks like you make excuses by blaming "whitey." It is a tired, tired argument.

My contention is that there is discrimination, but so what?

Protect whitey.

The high crime rate indicates that an enormous number of black people have serious character flaws, preferring to take the low road rather than having some integrity and sense of positive direction.

the black community is continually the community of failure, underachievement, crime, violence, self-hatred, and low self-worth.

incredibly large number of ignorant blacks (I'm not focusing on the other races here) who are simply ignorant and want to REMAIN that way.

Instead of gangbanging, why aren't these young brothers excelling in school?

bash blackey.




Roman sees pointing out discrimination as ''generalizing whites''.But he has no problem generalizing blacks.Interesting.Uncle Tom or white supremicist in disguise.

[Alexus]

This attitude accepts a low status in society.I disagree with your ''so what'' stance.Its the stance of a fool who believes he has to accept what is given to him.

Low status? You misunderstand. It says that, "no matter what is thrown in front of me, I am going to become a Doctor." The goal must be high and the determination to attain that goal must be strong enough to overcome obstacles that will certainly be there.

As its stands now,yes,but blacks can create a network that helps one another acheive these goals.We dont have to take your ''fuq everyone else ,im just going to get mines and do nothing to help others'' mindstate.Blacks can have unity.

What is this, the 60s? "Getting mine" is a step that hasn't been done on a large enough scale because high educational achievement is not paramount. You can't help others until you help yourself. You can't put an oxygen mask on your child in the airplane until you first put one on yourself. You can't educate a young brother to compete if you yourself have never competed. A huge segment of the black population can't even help themselves, so lets focus on the first step. Priorities. Recognize them.

I blame whitey for what he is responsable for-subjecting blacks to a second class status in the labor market.Its not a ''tired arguement'',its a fact,and there are solutions to this problem.

This means that your entire value system is predicated on how whites treat you, rather than your own goals. You create your own reality and your own reward system. You set your goals high and seek to attain them in spite of obstacles. When obstacles are thrown your way, find a way around or through them. Quit blaming "whitey." Quit acting like a victim. Learn from this thread.