Racial Tensions in Milwaukee? (Greenfield, Marquette: house, public schools, university)

[dkmisol]

Originally Posted by fanaraj

I can't decide what to make of all this conversation. Only that I am disappointed to hear that still so much segregation exists. I am not naive although I have been told different. So what are your thoughts on how a bi-racial couple with professional jobs would do in the Milwaukee area & suburbs?

A bi-racial professional couple would do quite well in either Wauwatosa, or any of the areas in zip codes 53217, 53211, 53202 (and to a lesser extent the southern part of Ozaukee County).

In reality, most places will more or less tolerate the presence of a minority, but it will be a different story when that person's back is turned.

As a white person, I will say that most of the other suburbs (whether they'll admit it or not) have a sizeable portion of people who are just pure racist/highly prejudiced.

[dkmisol]

Originally Posted by EnjoyEP

Here is just some random news from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel from the morning (only the morning) of Tuesday, March 27...

JS Online: NewsWatch

*Homicide on 13th St. and W. Finn Pl.


JS Online: NewsWatch

*An overnight gun fight wounds the near N. 37th and W. Center.


JS Online: NewsWatch

*Due to a fight over a "lover's quarrel", a man accused of fatally shot two men (a 19-year old and a 17-year old) and wounded two others earlier this month in the Metcalfe Park area by N. 21st St.


JS Online: NewsWatch

*Police investigate six shootings (some of these shootings were described above, some others were not) within the last day...locales noted: N. 13th St. and W. Finn Place, N. 60th St. and W. Fond du Lac Ave, 2700 block of N. 37th St., 3800 block of W. Hampton Ave.

***Again, all of these stories just from one random morning on a Tuesday morning in late March. 25 homicides to date in Milwaukee (compared to 20 at this time last year). El Paso TX, a city with low wages / poor economy, comparatively had 14 homicides ALL of last year.

Everything else is irrelevant until nonsense like this is cut off and curbed. There is no way the ecomony will improve, skilled workers will move in, etc., when stories like this are just simply "the norm" now and are passed off with excuses.

Milwaukee itself is a terribly violent city right now and people moving to the suburbs are not going due to race...they are going due to simple safety. It is too bad, because the whole MKE Metro area has got many things going for it...including MKE itself and its setting on the lake.

(MDKKR had it right with Rudy Giuliani...he cleaned up the crime in NYC...while the leaders in Milwaukee just make excuses and dig their heads in the sand.)

EnjoyEP... I enjoy reading your posts more and more... agree with what you say 100%.

May I officially add the Juneteenth Day beating to the list?

Juneteenth Beating Victim Waiting For Justice | TODAY'S TMJ4 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Weather, Sports - WTMJ NBC | Local News

Also, my mom's SUV has had the lug nuts loosened overnight more than once, and she's barely made it to the side of the road before it was too late (they live on the far NW side). I really start to doubt the overall "level" of alot of the people here, both black and white... which is sad, because I know there are so many people here who are decent, and trying so hard to get ahead: they mind their own business, don't start trouble, and pay their taxes. I esp. really doubt the people in my generation (I'm 26) - we're all some of the most selfish, irresponsible, & rude people that I've seen. I don't feel this way in the other places that I've lived or visited.

Well, enough ranting... We need Guiliani or Ron Paul for MKE!

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by dkmisol

EnjoyEP... I enjoy reading your posts more and more... agree with what you say 100%.

May I officially add the Juneteenth Day beating to the list?

Juneteenth Beating Victim Waiting For Justice | TODAY'S TMJ4 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Weather, Sports - WTMJ NBC | Local News

Also, my mom's SUV has had the lug nuts loosened overnight more than once, and she's barely made it to the side of the road before it was too late (they live on the far NW side). I really start to doubt the overall "level" of alot of the people here, both black and white... which is sad, because I know there are so many people here who are decent, and trying so hard to get ahead: they mind their own business, don't start trouble, and pay their taxes. I esp. really doubt the people in my generation (I'm 26) - we're all some of the most selfish, irresponsible, & rude people that I've seen. I don't feel this way in the other places that I've lived or visited.

Well, enough ranting... We need Guiliani or Ron Paul for MKE!

Not only are there people moving to the MKE suburbs, many blacks, particularly those in the working class are leaving the "Rust Belt" cities, in particular, MPLS-St.Paul,MN because jobs in the Twin Cities for working class persons are becoming more abundant and Mpls is considered comparatively safer in terms of crime. Ironically, some of the violence many people leave behind in the Rust Belt somehow finds its way to Minnesota. Still, I think Milwaukee has some hope left. It's cultural attractions are very lively.

[Fishtacos]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

At least I have some insight on Milwaukee. I asked about Milwaukee's reputation because being a resident of metro Atlanta, I find Atlanta very overrated, and in many ways dissapointing. I believed that Milwaukee could be a better place. Then again, I only went there for vacation and I haven't spent much time there. I an glad to here some of the good in Milwaukee.

ATL is twice the size of Milwaukee as a metro...tough to compare the two. Milwaukee would be better compared to smaller metros its own size.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Fishtacos

ATL is twice the size of Milwaukee as a metro...tough to compare the two. Milwaukee would be better compared to smaller metros its own size.

Perhaps it should, but at the same time, I am questioning Atlanta. It's not for everyone.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by mrkool

I live here and know what's going on, but I can't reply because you came right out and said you didn't want to hear about what everyone knows is the primary reason for segregation here. I could tell you alot about how black crime and misbehavior here has ruined a variety of neighborhoods, malls, schools, and events (Greekfest being the latest). But you don't want to hear it.
And I watch little TV, so don't even try that, dude.

Crime is crime no matter who committs it. What is the difference between "black crime" and "white crime" other than the suspect? I say a crime is a crime is a crime.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

Crime is crime no matter who committs it. What is the difference between "black crime" and "white crime" other than the suspect? I say a crime is a crime is a crime.

Certain groups exhibit certain behaviors well over and above the population at large. When those behaviors are destructive and so manifest as to become destructive not just personally but at a societal level, it's worth trying to find out why so that we can try to correct those problems. That won't happen if everyone assumes the "head-in-the-sand" approach that you advocate.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Drover

Certain groups exhibit certain behaviors well over and above the population at large. When those behaviors are destructive and so manifest as to become destructive not just personally but at a societal level, it's worth trying to find out why so that we can try to correct those problems. That won't happen if everyone assumes the "head-in-the-sand" approach that you advocate.

What head-in-sand approach? There are blacks who commit crimes. There are whites who commit crimes. There are people of all ethnicities who committ crimes. What is so unique about "black crime" other than the color of one's skin? Crime needs to be dealt with, yes. I'm not saying that blacks don't committ crimes. I know better. I watch the news. At the same time, they aren't the only ones. Crime is crime and they have the same results;destruction.

[proud to be American]

Originally Posted by mikki

Wow...this is a very loaded question. I believe that people need to look in both directions as my thinking is that tensions go in both directions. I think that African American people are segregating themselves as much or more. Where else in America can you find a phone book entitled the "Black Pages" with listings of only African American people in the city of Milwaukee? OK, this may sound impossible, but why can't we pretend that we are all visually impaired and like/dislike one another based on who we are, not what "group" we come from? Grow up, America, and count your blessings. You could live in Afghanistan, India, Africa, Russia....why don't we all realize how awesome we have it here??? Let's start blessing each other and counting our blessings...not posting why we have the "problems" we think we have. In comparison to 90% of the world, we are living in paradise.......

The "black pages" Close the thread chicagoland there is your answer they seperate themselves from all others of society.Also you can not overlook blacks commit most crimes.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by proud to be American

The "black pages" Close the thread chicagoland there is your answer they seperate themselves from all others of society.Also you can not overlook blacks commit most crimes.

A higher proportion of blacks commit crimes.