Racial Tensions in Milwaukee? (Waukesha, Brookfield: relocate, gated, condo)

[Nuclear_Art]

Originally Posted by pirate_lafitte

A higher proportion of blacks commit crimes.

A higher proportion of blacks are arrested for crimes.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Nuclear_Art

A higher proportion of blacks are arrested for crimes.

Good point. As for crime, my theory is that not everyone arrested for a crime actually did it and not everyone who committed a crime gets arrested. I just don't see the point in saying that there is "black crime". Most people who complain about "black crime" only do so because they have hidden hatred towards blacks and in many cases use crime as an excuse to not want blacks around.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by proud to be American

The "black pages" Close the thread chicagoland there is your answer they seperate themselves from all others of society.Also you can not overlook blacks commit most crimes.

I made a mistake. More blacks are arrested for crimes. My theory is not everyone who committs a crime actually did the crime. That goes for anyone.

[Intrigued]

Originally Posted by CHICAGOLAND92

Milwaukee is the second most segregated city by means of population, and first when it comes to economic distribution. What are some reasons for racial tension in Milwaukee?

Before you say - It's because ALL the black people are committing the crimes, please step away from your television and take a look around, or do some research at least. Not all black people are the same. There IS a such thing as upper class blacks, NOT all black people want to be gangsters and rappers when they grow up.

So again I state; What are some reasons for racial tension in Milwaukee?

What are some reasons for racial tension? I don't think there is any other reason for racial tension or segregation other than racial profiling. it's as simple as that.

[Drover]

Originally Posted by Intrigued

What are some reasons for racial tension? I don't think there is any other reason for racial tension or segregation other than racial profiling. it's as simple as that.

No, it's really not as simple as that. In fact it's so complicated that I could spend hours -- days even -- writing a treatise on the subject. That's how complicated it is. To attribute one of the greatest social dilemmas afflicting our nation today to racial profiling and claiming it to be "as simple as that" is incredibly short-sighted.

[Intrigued]

Originally Posted by Drover

No, it's really not as simple as that. In fact it's so complicated that I could spend hours -- days even -- writing a treatise on the subject. That's how complicated it is. To attribute one of the greatest social dilemmas afflicting our nation today to racial profiling and claiming it to be "as simple as that" is incredibly short-sighted.

What would you rather me say stereotyping. There are a very select few americans that integrate with the other group(s), and i'll pretty much guarantee that those few actually had to work in an environment with said groups to actually get to know them before they even considered the move. Don't get me wrong, no family that somewhat cares about their outcome would want to move in a bad neighborhood, i understand that, but all neighborhoods aren't bad, i've seen plenty that weren't and i still did not see somewhat of an equal amount of different races. I believe integration between the races would have to be under drastic circumstances, you know such as poverty, where people can't help but to live where ever they can afford, there's plenty of integregation there, but middle class, upper class civilization, NO! But then again, i guess if the majority of blacks would actually take the time to get their education and find that nice job to put them into the middle class economy then they could move into the suburbs with the middle class whites, but there will always be racial tension. You're right days can be spent writing about this subject, but it will all stem back down to that simple little fact, the majority of people are gonna live where they best feel comfortable, with people of the same race. Where they are not discriminated against.

[landrover06]

I lived in Milwaukee for 9 years and left in 1984. The problem at that time was that Milwaukee was flooded by the northern migration of the most ignorant black people in this country. I'm talking about people from Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, and so forth. Yes folks, these very ignorant people are a big problem in this city and from what I hear, the problem has gotten WORSE. The city scrambles like hell to deal with this problem, but is fighting a losing battle like most cities.

So how does this manifest itself in a city that was traditionally inhabited by very rigid people which include the Polish (esp the South side) and the Germans? After all, these people want to live a peaceful existence, simply do a hard day's work every day for nominal pay...maintain that good, strong blue-collar work ethic, until retirement where they can eat Brats and drink beer and watch the Brewers and the Packers, shovel snow, and curse the darkness. These working class stiffs run like hell to the suburbs, unable to cope with the utter ignorance of these unique ignorant blacks. They contribute to the ignorance by not being able to distinguish between a black person who graduated from Marquette University from an ignorant, illiterate black person who is not yet used to sleeping in a house with a roof. Because of this inability, rampant discrimination exists at every level. It's a shame. Milwaukee has its share of blacks and whites who don't fit either of the most negative traits of their races, but not enough to offset the enormous ignorance on both sides.

[Bellinghamite]

Originally Posted by CHICAGOLAND92

Milwaukee is the second most segregated city by means of population, and first when it comes to economic distribution. What are some reasons for racial tension in Milwaukee?

Before you say - It's because ALL the black people are committing the crimes, please step away from your television and take a look around, or do some research at least. Not all black people are the same. There IS a such thing as upper class blacks, NOT all black people want to be gangsters and rappers when they grow up.

So again I state; What are some reasons for racial tension in Milwaukee?

Segregation and tension are two different things. As a former resident of the Milwaukee area I cannot say that I observed much of what might be called racial tension there. Segregation, in fact, can help reduce such tensions.

I met some middle-class blacks when I lived in the area. They weren't gangbangers, but they had their own identity as blacks and that was fine. Whites had their own identity as well, which was also fine. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people in Milwaukee figure if something ain't broke, then they don't need to fix it.

[7035683216]

I am guessing it is Chicago, but I have no evidence just my eyes to compare it with other places that I have lived.

[mke_jim]

I live on the west-side of the city and my kids attend public schools. On my block there are three black families, one hispanic family and eight white families. I remember a study from college that said, to most whites this situation (67% white) is considered comfortably intergrated, whereas minorities consider 50% white to be comfortably integrated. There isn't much tension on our block, but then again we don't talk about Michael McGee Jr. or Frank Jude much.

I am white. All of my family members live in the 'burbs and some of them - expecially the ones who live farther out - think that we live in the 'hood. If you don't know a variety of people personally, you tend to see members of particular groups as stereotypes instead of as individuals. And to some extent you have to - a young man dressed like a hood is more likely to rob you than a little old lady. Age, sex, dress and yes race - are a few of the factors that we use to navigate through our world, but the more we know the finer the details we can use and the less we paint others with a broad brush.

As for the sources of tension and why blacks tend to self-segregate. I knew a middle aged black woman who got pulled over by the Greenfield cops in the mid 80s and asked what she was doing "out of her neighborhood" on a Sunday morning. She was going to church. This kind of harrassment from suburban cops gives blacks a huge incentive to stay in "their neighborhoods." Some Milwaukee police aren't any better. Back in the day, Police Chief Harold Breier's force was equal opportunity oppressors to a point, but did seek to keep "black crime in black neighborhoods." Which means harrass blacks who wander outside of black neighborhoods (and remember in the 60s racial red lining was not just happen but was allowed by law.) The Frank Jude case shows that racist Milwaukee cops are not an antiquated notion. I am NOT calling all Milwaukee cops racist. I am not calling MOST Milwaukee cops racist.

But upstanding minorities who have been pulled over for DWB - driving while black (or brown) - might have gotten the message to stay in minority neighborhoods from people wearing badges.