I don't want to sound racist but I have a question (Milwaukee: crime, tenants)

[Angorlee]

Originally Posted by #Littledog

I'm still trying to figure out why the OP wants to sleep on a park bench in a park by herself. Maybe she's the one we should be afraid of!

its the idea that someone could do such a thing if she/he wanted to without having to fear for her/his life. Back in the 1930s there was no air conditioning so it was a great relief to be able to go to a park and sleep.

[Angorlee]

time to ignore Karfar---i think he's the troll

[karfar]

Originally Posted by Angorlee

time to ignore Karfar---i think he's the troll

Too funny, sorry you're wrong.

[ConceivedinKY51]

Originally Posted by Drover

They don't call it White Folk's Bay for nothing. But oh, those nasty j00z -- can't have any of those around cuz that would make you feel uncomfortable.

Sorry to tell you this, but strictly-WASP enclaves are a declining phenomenon. Thankfully, so are people like you.

That's a very nasty comment. People DO have a right to live where they feel comfortable!! Would you make a comment like that to an African-American?

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by quijote

These kinds of postings and rejoinders have been going on for decades--anyone who thinks that this somehow reflects a "nazism" has forgotten, or has never learned, that pretty much all population spread in the U.S. has been the result of a clash of isolationist and integrationist tendencies. If it weren't for this constant demographic tug-of-war, none of us would be living where we are.

As regards the OP's comment, what gets me is not so much his/her desire to live in a "racial" or "ethnic" or even a "culturally religious" bubble. (Many Jews are non-practicing anyway, so what does it matter?) What gets me are the contradictions in comments such as "I like Whitefish Bay, but I don't feel comfortable around Jews." In other words, I suspect that much of what the OP likes about Whitefish Bay has a lot to do with the residents and business owners and retail customers of WFB, and many of them are Jewish. Does the OP think that non-Jewish whites commute everyday from Walworth County in order to make WFB an appealing place? Uh, no. What the OP likes is a community that is partly supported by Jews. I just don't get how the OP can be uncomfortable living around a group of people responsible for creating and sustaining a community that the OP likes. It's like saying "I like schools, except for the kids," or "Libraries would be great, if it weren't for all of those books."

Getting back to topic, it sounds like Angorlee should look into Cudahy and South Milwaukee--nice downtown-centered communities near the lake, and most of the people are caucasian and have Christian-European roots.

I like it, but........

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by Angorlee

This might be a little idealistic but a real neighborhood is like the neighborhoods in the 1930s and before. They were real neighborhoods that people weren't trying to create but were natural living communities of like ethnic groups. Every ethnic group had their own communities. People didn't lock their doors and there was trust between people. It was a different world from now, I know. If you ever get a chance see the documentary 'Remembering Chicago' that is played on WTTW television once or twice a year. In that documentary people that grew up during the 1920s and 1930s are interviewed and they tell it like it was. One thing that stands out in my mind is a lady said that on a hot summer night she could go down to the nearest park in her pajamas with a pillow and blanket and sleep in the park without one thought that someone might do her harm. That was in the city of chicago and a 15 girl could do that in any park in any part of the city. My point is every city was that safe and clean including Milwaukee. I'm sure that people slept on the beaches on summer nights in Milwaukee without even a thought that someone might do them harm. And no one locked their doors because no one was just going to walk into your house or apartment and steal something. And if you had a car you could leave the keys in the ignition over night without even a single worry that someone might steal it. Now how does all this relate to the fact that I would like to live amongst my own European American people? Back in those safe days all communities were enthnic and that is the first step in getting back to days when we won't have to worry so much about safety.

So basically you are looking for an ethnic enclave of your liking that is extremely safe(if that was ever the case).

[Drover]

Originally Posted by ConceivedinKY51

That's a very nasty comment. People DO have a right to live where they feel comfortable!! Would you make a comment like that to an African-American?

Yeah, cry me a freaking river. Fine, live where you're comfortable. But when "comfort" derives from being so bigoted that you cannot countenance having anyone even slightly different from you living nearby, that's the kind of "comfort" we as a people rightfully have increasingly less patience for.

[quijote]

Originally Posted by ckhthankgod

I like it, but........

Or: "I like it, but I don't like it"

[quijote]

Originally Posted by #Littledog

Angorlee, I think you will be happiest on the south side of Milwaukee. Cudahy, South Milwaukee.

To the others, I am far from an overly-politically correct person...I guess I was taken a back by the OP's disdain for Jewish people (and I'm not Jewish-I can just imagine a Jewish person would feel offended by Angorlee's comment). I'm also surprised that WFB would be a concern because I never thought of it as a place where there were a significant number of Jewish people. Compared to Detroit (my hometown), I think Milwaukee has very few different ethnic groups represented.

I also think those are the areas best suited for Angorlee.

However, there is a slight problem: Though Angorlee may feel comfortable in a place like Cudahy or South Milwaukee, those communities have quite a few neighborhoods made up of people who don't like "outsiders." If Angorlee didn't go to the local high school, or doesn't have some sort of family connection with people in the neighborhood, there's a good chance s/he won't be warmly embraced by the local people.

Things have changed a little bit in areas of Cudahy and South Milwaukee, particularly as a few Mexicans have moved in, but family ties and provenance still make a huge difference in those parts. The people in these communities are not as transient as the people in places like Whitefish Bay, and as a result it's harder to break into social circles. Angorlee could surround him/herself with similar-looking people, but may never really become a part of the community.

[brutustanman]

I'm from Milwaukee now living in Fond du Lac (try there if you decide to live somewhere else than Milwaukee area because there are a lot of races black (I am) ect. but there are white neighborhoods as well. In Mil. area probably downtown, brookfield, elm grove, butler, lannon areas. otherwise milwaukee you prob. wouldn't pick cuz of a lot of different races black hispanic ect. So yea I hope dat works lol...