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I agree on the whole RTA thing, however you would be hard pressed to find someone from Elkhorn to pay for Milwaukee regional transit if it doesn't serve them. At least have a 6 county RTA. I don't think people realize how many different transit operations we have to cart people around. How about just having one so you don't have to worry about transfers and timing of transfers and taking cabs to fill in the holes. A more complete system would be useful. Let's see their is Greyhound, Megabus, badger bus, coach USA, Mcts, Wcts, Racine county transit, kenosha county transit, airport express, Lamers, not to mention all the county express buses. Let's get one system that interacts with different parts of the region and works together instead of competing.
I'm all for this. I'd love to see this.
I think that one of the big challenges would be to sell this to the burbs though. Especially when you got people like Belling playing RTA's as "a way for you to pay for Milwaukee County's buses."
There's been a lot of demagoguery from the right on this issue.
No surprise here, I'm a big belling fan but this is where he and I disagree, I am however leary about handing over another government body the authority to tax at free will. Again something has to be done to have a more cohesive transit system AREA wide. People in the suburbs have to realize that they live in the suburbs and are part of Milwaukee whether they like it or not and along with all the perks that come with living an a large metro area is cons as well.
I don't know if we can count Walworth County in on the RTA plan, it seems to far away and only a very small NE corner of that county actually commute to Milwaukee.
I also would like to see a heck of a lot more cooperation between Milwaukee and Chicago when it comes to transportation and business needs.
No surprise here, I'm a big belling fan but this is where he and I disagree, I am however leary about handing over another government body the authority to tax at free will.
What about having an elected board?
It's not unheard of. Oakland, CA has an RTA with an elected board. I'm not a fan of these appointed boards full of political cronies. I think we should have an elected board that is accountable to the public.
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Again something has to be done to have a more cohesive transit system AREA wide. People in the suburbs have to realize that they live in the suburbs and are part of Milwaukee whether they like it or not and along with all the perks that come with living an a large metro area is cons as well.
HEAR HEAR!!
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I don't know if we can count Walworth County in on the RTA plan, it seems to far away and only a very small NE corner of that county actually commute to Milwaukee.
You're probably right. Walworth is distant and most of it is isolated.
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I also would like to see a heck of a lot more cooperation between Milwaukee and Chicago when it comes to transportation and business needs.
Maybe a few transportation things, but I'm leery of getting Milwaukee too involved in that city's corrupt system of arm-twisting and back-room dealing. As the saying goes: When you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
It's not unheard of. Oakland, CA has an RTA with an elected board. I'm not a fan of these appointed boards full of political cronies. I think we should have an elected board that is accountable to the public.
HEAR HEAR!!
You're probably right. Walworth is distant and most of it is isolated.
Maybe a few transportation things, but I'm leery of getting Milwaukee too involved in that city's corrupt system of arm-twisting and back-room dealing. As the saying goes: When you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas.
They should add an elected board right after they add an elected board for taking care of our streets and highways. There is much more money being spent on those items than will ever be spent on transit.
To coordinate with another state doesn't mean we have to jump in bed with them, it just means working on mutual beneficial goals. Being alarmist and standoffish towards a large population and business community that is grown up along the border, doesn't help to attract economic development to WI.
I'm with you on the elected board idea and this should go for MMSD as well. Problem is the same dopes that voted for Doyle twice would be the same people voting for these board member's and those people are the uneducated voter.
They should add an elected board right after they add an elected board for taking care of our streets and highways. There is much more money being spent on those items than will ever be spent on transit.
I would have no problem doing that. SEWRPC, which currently does the planning for transit and roads should definitely be accountable.
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To coordinate with another state doesn't mean we have to jump in bed with them, it just means working on mutual beneficial goals. Being alarmist and standoffish towards a large population and business community that is grown up along the border, doesn't help to attract economic development to WI.
I'm not standoffish towards the community, it's their politicians that scare me.
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I'm with you on the elected board idea and this should go for MMSD as well. Problem is the same dopes that voted for Doyle twice would be the same people voting for these board member's and those people are the uneducated voter.
Good idea on bringing up MMSD. That's a poster-child for unaccountability and government incompetence and stupidity. Maybe if they weren't so busy coming up with fancy terms for dumping untreated sewage (like 'blending', 'CSO', etc) they could find out the reason for the failure of the Deep Tunnel.
I do recognize the problems with uneducated voters, but at this point it is the lesser of two evils.
Maybe if they weren't so busy coming up with fancy terms for dumping untreated sewage (like 'blending', 'CSO', etc) they could find out the reason for the failure of the Deep Tunnel.
LOL!!! Combined sewer overflow and blending...too funny!
LOL!!! Combined sewer overflow and blending...too funny!
It may be funny, but the sad part is most people don't realize that in any other city around the country, they're still dumping their overflows right into the rivers and lakes. The public in those places just doesn't care or isn't aware that it's going on.
At least Milwaukee has been doing it part to reduce these overflows and minimize their impact the couple times a year they happen.
I'm with you on the elected board idea and this should go for MMSD as well. Problem is the same dopes that voted for Doyle twice would be the same people voting for these board member's and those people are the uneducated voter.
Actually, people who vote Republican tend to be much less educated than those who vote Democratic.
Actually, people who vote Republican tend to be much less educated than those who vote Democratic.
I guess well have to agree to disagree but I'll believe it when I see it. The younger voters tend to be the dumbest voters and I remember when I went to uwm I couldn't believe some of the people that were actually voting.
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