Should Milwaukee Be The Capital of Wisconsin? (Madison, Paris: income, restaurant)

[jjacobeclark]

Originally Posted by gold*dust1

You brought up the word cosmopolitan in reference to the TC, I don't feel the need to argue that. In my book if we are using a comparison like Paris...sorry the TC has much more of that atmosphere than Milwaukee every could. I think you guys need to get over that...just saying. I have occasionally read some posts over on the MN board and I have never noticed them talking smack about Milwaukee.

Can you name one thing that makes Minneapolis more "cosmopolitan" than Milwaukee? Cosmopolitan isn't a warm and fuzzy feeling you experience, it's an adjective used to describe a place where many cultures are represented. How can a city that is 73% White be considered cosmopolitan?

[gold*dust1]

Originally Posted by jjacobeclark

The title of this thread is "Should Milwaukee Be The Capital of Wisconsin?" not "What's Your Opinion of Milwaukee?" What michael31681 posted was completely off topic and meant to be inflammatory. It added nothing constructive to a discussion taking place among fellow Wisconsinites.

The only reason michael31681 decided to attack Milwaukee was because he believes Minneapolis is a superior city to Milwaukee. If he can attack Milwaukee for absolutely no reason, then why should I hold back on bashing the Twin Cities?

Maybe you could have just let his comment go instead of making too much out of it...just a thought. I'm happy to see Milw City didn't comment on it, as he likes to make Madison the butt of many jokes, when obviously we have a better rep than Milw.

[gold*dust1]

Originally Posted by jjacobeclark

Can you name one thing that makes Minneapolis more "cosmopolitan" than Milwaukee? Cosmopolitan isn't a warm and fuzzy feeling you experience, it's an adjective used to describe a place where many cultures are represented. How can a city that is 73% White be considered cosmopolitan?

Yes I see you feel the need to drive that point into the ground and I guess that can be your battle. I think the word cosmopolitan for many people has taken on the connotation of a warm fuzzy feeling, as evidenced by Q's bringing up Paris. I think of the word as meaning worldly, which my Websters Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary seems to agree with Just looked it up.

On a lighter note Madison has a new reality show on MTV called College Life, so I guess we can now brag our little town has made the big time

[quijote]

Originally Posted by gold*dust1

You brought up the word cosmopolitan in reference to the TC, I don't feel the need to argue that. In my book if we are using a comparison like Paris....

Yes, the TC are closer in certain ways, but still not there, nor ever will be. They have more in common with Mke than with Paris. Oh well!

[quijote]

Originally Posted by gold*dust1

Well IDK, some Milwaukeeans sure seem like they have an ax to grind and a huge need to prove themselves. The person J quoted didn't mention anything about their own city, just their opinion of yours.

I'm not that familiar with Milwaukees angst on this board that they have been given the short stick and aren't well received. Madison has a pretty good rep for whatever reason, and Milwaukee just doesn't get much recognition but what's with the sour grapes? I think it's in you guys heads more than anything anyone else is thinking about.

The twin cities IMO is a very real city! So it appeals to yuppies, ok. Well I lived there for a short time many years ago and have visited other times and it just has its own unique atmosphere and shouldn't have to be sorry for that.

As a fairly recent arrival to Milwaukee, and after living in places like the SF Bay Area, the NYC area, and Madrid, I'm not that much concerned with Milwaukee angst, either. I just find it interesting that some people think places like Madison and Minneapolis are so far ahead, when that's not really the case.

[gold*dust1]

Originally Posted by quijote

Yes, the TC are closer in certain ways, but still not there, nor ever will be. They have more in common with Mke than with Paris. Oh well!

Ok fabulous we agree that the TC is much more comparable to Paris than Milwaukee ever will be. You are a straight shooter and I respect that!

I guess Milwaukeeans needing to prove themselves is a mystery to me as I will never be caught up in that, sorry.

[quijote]

Originally Posted by gold*dust1

Yes I see you feel the need to drive that point into the ground and I guess that can be your battle. I think the word cosmopolitan for many people has taken on the connotation of a warm fuzzy feeling, as evidenced by Q's bringing up Paris. I think of the word as meaning worldly, which my Websters Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary seems to agree with Just looked it up.

And you don't think I meant "worldly" in my reference? Paris is more than quaint bistros, touristy pedestrian streets, and Versace shops. It's also home to thousands of immigrants and resident migrants from all around the world, and thus home to dozens of languages, reading/music habits, cuisines, religions, etc. That's quite cosmopolitan, in the grandest sense.

[quijote]

Originally Posted by gold*dust1

Ok fabulous we agree that the TC is much more comparable to Paris than Milwaukee ever will be. You are a straight shooter and I respect that!

I guess Milwaukeeans needing to prove themselves is a mystery to me as I will never be caught up in that, sorry.

If your reading skills are that deficient, then go ahead and believe that Fargo, ND is more comparable to Paris than Minot. (And yes, I know you're being snarky. I in turn agree that the Mall of America is more comparable to the Champs-Elysees than anything Milwaukee has. Go Mpls!)

[gold*dust1]

Originally Posted by quijote

As a fairly recent arrival to Milwaukee, and after living in places like the SF Bay Area, the NYC area, and Madrid, I'm not that much concerned with Milwaukee angst, either. I just find it interesting that some people think places like Madison and Minneapolis are so far ahead, when that's not really the case.

I will agree with you on that about Madison and being a native it's amusing to me, as I knew Madison and the way it was many years ago.

I wasn't aware MPLS "thinks" they are far ahead, but can tell you that as an 18 year old when I lived there and today, they are a much more sophisticated city than Madison and put great thought into their freeway system etc. The city had many little sidewalk cafe's etc. and their campus had a much bigger atmosphere to me than Madison.

I love the SF Bay area for all appearances sake, but the reality could be a bitter pill to swallow. If it wasn't for MPLS's freezing temps, distance from other places and Fargoism it really ranks up there for me.

[quijote]

Originally Posted by gold*dust1

I will agree with you on that about Madison and being a native it's amusing to me, as I knew Madison and the way it was many years ago.

I wasn't aware MPLS "thinks" they are far ahead, but can tell you that as an 18 year old when I lived there and today, they are a much more sophisticated laid out city than Madison and put great thougt into their freeway system etc. The city had many little sidewalk cafe's etc. and their campus had a much bigger atmosphere to me than Madison.

I love the SF Bay area for all appearances sake, but the reality could be a bitter pill to swallow. If it wasn't for MPLS's freezing temps, distance from other places and Fargoism it really ranks up there for me.

That's the curse of the Upper Midwest: very interesting cities (Mke, Mpls, Madtown, etc.) that could and would be even more dynamic if it weren't for the 7-month winter. But even given the cold temps in MN and WI (and other northern zones), I far prefer Mke, Mpls, and Madison to the warmer cities down south, such at Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, etc.