Best neighborhoods to live for professional African American population (Milwaukee: crime rates, home)
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Interestingly, all of the African-American professionals and businessmen I know are either Nigerians or Ethiopians. For a while I worked for a very successful Nigerian businessman and now work with his friends in the same field but a different sector. I know this is anecdotal but it is something that I've heard before in the book, "American Pictures" that there is something that weighs down the average African-American that doesn't weigh down the recent African emigres. I'm sure my Nigerian colleague could explain it better but I know he sees the same thing.
That actually doesn't surprise me at all. Honestly, I think most people from Africa have more of a desire to be a part of mainstream American culture, while many AA seem to enjoy living in a completely separate parallel universe.
Many come because its near impossible to get in most other countries with the relative ease of the USA.
Also near impossible to live as an illegal most places while the US tolerates tens of millions.
First of all, it's not easy to immigrate to the US. It's an extremely lengthy and expensive process.
Second, what the hell does illegal immigration have to do with the subject at hand?
I had to google those neighborhood names. Oftentimes the names that Google maps gives neighborhoods doesn't quite conform to the reality "on the ground." In other words, I don't think anyone who lives in "Sunset Heights" is aware that they live in a place called "Sunset Heights."
I agree with Ronnie. I bought a house in "Sunset Heights" about a year ago now. Most of the neighbors are good people. I asked some about this "Sunset Heights" because that's what I saw on Google. They didn't know what I was talking about, and this guy has lived there for over 25 years. They consider it to be Sherman Park. The neighbors definitely look out for each other. Although there is one house across the street which is full of renters coming and going and I know one of them was shot last year in some altercation (drug related I was told, although I don't know for sure). But for the most part there are a lot of homeowners near me that have lived here for over 20 years.
Although I tell people at work that I live near Sherman Park, and they think I am out of my mind. They ask if I find used needles on the ground and hear gunshots all day. They ask if I have bars on the windows (some neighbors do). Although I guess they are not too far off, as I had a snowblower stolen recently, which was in a locked garage and chained to a stud in the wall. Someone broke in and used a saw to cut through the stud and take the snowblower. Truth be told the only reason I live in the city is because my wife is a teacher and I have no choice.
Well this neighborhood doesn't seem too bad. I've heard some areas in the southern part of the city are very nice, but I don't want to have too long of a commute. I also looked at downtown before, but the prices were too high for my budget.
You bring up an interesting point, but it's really hard for an outsider to get a feel for how this city operates. Unemployment in Milwaukee is 51% among AA males, however, it's much lower among AA females, Latinos, and other minorities. Which begs the question, is it really society holding Black men back, or are they holding themselves back? Why can Black women and Latinos find jobs, but Black men can't?
I agree with the other poster who said there aren't a ton of AA entrepreneurs in Milwaukee, like there are in places like Atlanta or Houston, but there also seems to be an unwillingness on the part of Black men here to take low level jobs in fast food and retail. It's like flipping burgers is too demeaning so they'd just as soon have no job at all, rather than have a job that's slightly embarrassing. There also seems to be this belief among many Black men that white people either get everything handed to them, or that white people have to compromise their integrity to get ahead in this world.
Here's a story to illustrate my point: I used to be a security guard at a four star hotel. A young Black man came in to apply for a job. I gave him an application and showed him to the Human Resources office. He came by the security office again on his way out and seemed to be making friendly conversation, asking how long I worked there. That's when he made the comment that I "must have sucked a lot of dick" to get my job. It's sad, but that seems to be the prevailing sentiment among many Black men nowadays. It couldn't possibly be because I worked there for 2 years as a banquet houseman, busting my ass moving furniture, before applying for the position in security. Unlike most of my coworkers, I had no police or military background, but they knew I was a hard worker and that I was honest from my time as a houseman, so they took a chance and gave me the position. Lots of hard work, but no fellatio involved in getting me the position.
Sigh! There are so many racist behaviors in the white community I have lost count. Here we have the type of white person who cites incidences involving blacks as wrongdoers, with an intention of making the entire black race look bad. Most of these cited incidences are either: 1.) incidences that are not widespread amongst the black race, but limited to a scanty amount of blacks; 2.) incidences brought on by the poverty-stricken result of extreme racial discrimination -- Factors like these are disregarded by misleading Whites who have one goal and one goal alone; making the black race look bad. If that means misleading and whitewashing facts, you better believe these no-good whites will do just that.
It's this kind of racist trash that is causing the unemployment in the black community to skyrocket and as long as whites are allowed to keep up the bull**** while living in denial that they've done anything wrong IT WILL CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. I doubt whites will ever accept the fact that their racism is at the root of all this crime, incarceration unemployment B.S. When they're told something; DENY DENY DENY DENY DENY. COMPLETE DENIAL. "WE AND OUR PEOPLE HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG." IT'S LIKE CUT THE CRAP ALREADY! There's a race in trouble. Show some decency to admit that the racial issues in that racial group has been making life a living hell for black people to this day.
Simple answer to all this garbage is until the white community grows the hell up and adopts some morals on a large scale, we will have huge unemployment rates among the black community; not only in this state but as far as the entire country goes. What's worse about all this is whites will ALWAYS be in denial of their total fault for it all. They will ALWAYS be that way. It's been going on now for 5 centuries. Until this race becomes the minority they will steadily continue to make like worse and worse for the black community without accepting responsibility for squat. The white community and they're unwillingness to accept fault for anything is going to continue to bury blacks into a whole until we have African American Civil Rights Movement 2 or something. The majority of these people can't accept the fault for squat. PEOPLE, RACIAL DISCRIMINATION FROM A 74% MAJORITY ONTO A 13% MINORITY WILL ........... HAVE ........ CONSEQUENCES ... BELIEVE ...... IT ................ OR ............. NOT. THIS IS COMMONSENSE! THERE'S A 74% BULLY THAT HAS BEEN OPPRESSING FOR AGES AND ARE DOING SO CURRENTLY, JUST MUCH MORE SUBTLY WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO GET AWAY WITH IT.
Why can't some of these racist whites that comment on these boards get this through their thick skulls? It's just becoming irritating listening to them whimper when their own people are at the root of the problems. They sit around nagging and whimpering at blacks for suffering the negative effects of their own damn race's b.s.; high crime rate, incarcerations, robbery. LOOK TO YOURSELVES. Whimpering about the black community without giving so much as a glance to all the most disgusting cases of racial discrimination and cruelty that only ended a few decades ago; DIDN'T EVEN END AS MANY OF THEM CLEARLY DO IT SUBTLY. It's just some big coincidence that all of our parents grew up poor in the innercity to these whites.
Most of the white community is in complete denial and it disgusts me. We live in a country that has had anti-black racial discrimination and cruelties from the 1500s up through the freaking 1980s. They pulled that white flight in the 70s as blacks were gradually gaining more equal rights so as to separate the wealth of society from black full well knowing blacks hadn't made a sent up to that point. Then they used loopholes and technicalities to get around equal rights laws throughout the 80s.
Poverty and crime rates up the kazoo among lower-class blacks (not the middle class mind you) which makes up the majority of the black community. I FRIGGIN WONDER WHY. Doesn't help that our majority white law enforcement engages in utter racial discrimination such as profiling either. White reaction; no reparations; solutions; deny deny deny deny; put down and nag blacks because it's magically their fault; all blacks fault "WUH, WE HAD NUDDIN' TO DO WID IT'. THEY JUST MAGICALLY BROUGHT IT' ON ALL DEMSELVES."
You add to the effects of past anti-black cruelties and discrimination, the fact that whites are still engaging in plenty of racial discrimination and cruelties even today. This is even according FBI statistics Incidents and Offenses - Hate Crime Statistics, 2008 ---> Incidents and Offenses - Hate Crime Statistics, 2008 (http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2008/incidents.html - broken link) in which it shows hate crimes are disgustingly high in regards to what whites are doing to blacks even today while vice versa this is NOT the case. White response above: deny deny deny deny; it's blacks' fault. Once again! The white community engages in a wrong and doesn't want to accept the blame for it's negative consequences but rather chooses to place the blame with blacks. It's no different from the issue in Australia in which the Aboriginals are impoverished and ghettoized because whites pulled the same crap to them over there a few decades ago as well. It's nothing but denial from White Australians. I'm afraid the problem will never be resolved as long as the white race is in the majority. Until a more logical-thinking, fair-minded race takes over, America will be a disaster area.
Last edited by AmericanHistory09; 12-30-2009 at 10:45 PM..
I am African American. Please do not listen to any of the answerers on this board about moving over in the Sherman Park area. That area is very dangerous. In fact, it's very close to Metcalfe Park which is considered the most dangerous area in Milwaukee. It's the heart of the ghetto.
Actually it's not that bad. Let me explain since I once considered buying a house in that area and still would consider that area. Sherman Park is bigger than it's traditional boundaries suggest. Much like Bay View in that people who technically don't live in Bay View call it Bay View and the same goes for Sherman Park. I have spent time walking and shopping in the Sherman Park area and never felt unsafe. People and businesses which are located technically in Sunset heights, Grasslyn Manor and St.Josephs(60th & Burleigh area) call it Sherman Park and most people today call areas like 55th and Auer call it Sherman Park and that area is not very dangerous at all. However I wouldn't live east of Sherman Blvd but everything west of their is fine and very beautiful homes especially north of Burleigh.Ave
Being close to a bad area doesn't always translate to just as bad. IE River Hills is the most expensive and prestigious city in Wisconsin and it's only 7 miles away from Hillside one of the poorest sections in the state.
Actually it's not that bad. Let me explain since I once considered buying a house in that area and still would consider that area. Sherman Park is bigger than it's traditional boundaries suggest. Much like Bay View in that people who technically don't live in Bay View call it Bay View and the same goes for Sherman Park. I have spent time walking and shopping in the Sherman Park area and never felt unsafe. People and businesses which are located technically in Sunset heights, Grasslyn Manor and St.Josephs(60th & Burleigh area) call it Sherman Park and most people today call areas like 55th and Auer call it Sherman Park and that area is not very dangerous at all. However I wouldn't live east of Sherman Blvd but everything west of their is fine and very beautiful homes especially north of Burleigh.Ave
Being close to a bad area doesn't always translate to just as bad. IE River Hills is the most expensive and prestigious city in Wisconsin and it's only 7 miles away from Hillside one of the poorest sections in the state.
Actually, I will agree that Sherman Park isn't lower-class as it does have very beautiful homes. I had family that lived in a very beautiful home in the Sherman Park area; however, right around the corner from Sherman Park is the heart of the ghetto so I wouldn't recommend this place to live. I had family who used to live in a very beautiful home in the Sherman Park area near Washington Highschool for many years. A safer area w/ African American middle-class is Brown Deer.
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