Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Minnesota > Minneapolis - St. Paul
 [Register]
Minneapolis - St. Paul Twin Cities
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
 
Old 01-21-2013, 10:22 AM
 
687 posts, read 1,255,916 times
Reputation: 323

Advertisements

I posted this as another thread, but it is probably more appropriate as its own thread.

I was looking at the demographics of St. Paul's Highland Park high school. The state of Minnesota Education Department data claims the school is 35.9% white.

But, if you look at census data the census tracts that make up the school's attendance area give a population that is 87% white and with the under 18 population being 76% white. [The census tracts do include a small area outside of the attendance area and miss a small area, but it seems unlikely those areas are big enough or different enough to affect the overall numbers.]

What is going on here? I'm wondering if open enrollment is really that big of a factor? Or maybe many of the white students in the area go to different high schools? Or maybe there's a really big difference in the high school age demographics in the attendance area compared to the elementary school age demographics?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-21-2013, 11:05 AM
 
20,793 posts, read 61,308,820 times
Reputation: 10695
Quote:
Originally Posted by northsub View Post
I posted this as another thread, but it is probably more appropriate as its own thread.

I was looking at the demographics of St. Paul's Highland Park high school. The state of Minnesota Education Department data claims the school is 35.9% white.

But, if you look at census data the census tracts that make up the school's attendance area give a population that is 87% white and with the under 18 population being 76% white. [The census tracts do include a small area outside of the attendance area and miss a small area, but it seems unlikely those areas are big enough or different enough to affect the overall numbers.]

What is going on here? I'm wondering if open enrollment is really that big of a factor? Or maybe many of the white students in the area go to different high schools? Or maybe there's a really big difference in the high school age demographics in the attendance area compared to the elementary school age demographics?
Most people that want good schools in that area send their kids to private schools like Cretin or SPA.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-21-2013, 12:32 PM
 
1,807 posts, read 3,095,669 times
Reputation: 1518
Quote:
Originally Posted by golfgal View Post
Most people that want good schools in that area send their kids to private schools like Cretin or SPA.
I'd imagine that that is the case, although Highland is by no means a bad school. St. Paul used to be pretty liberal in its allowances for kids to choose high schools outside of their own neighborhoods, too, but they were trying to get away from that and back to "neighborhood schools" a few years back...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-21-2013, 12:58 PM
 
4,176 posts, read 4,670,550 times
Reputation: 1672
What's the white / minority graduation breakdown at Highland?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-21-2013, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Marcy-Holmes, Mpls
37 posts, read 82,687 times
Reputation: 55
My niece and nephew (both white and middle-class) are recent Highland grads. They are high achievers and both had very good experiences at Highland. But the big thing about St. Paul is that overall, it is very Catholic, much more so than Minneapolis (where I live). Schools, sports and social connections are very much organized according to what parish you attend. I have many friends with high-school-age kids in St. Paul, and they all started their kids at K-8 Catholic schools and then ended up continuing with Catholic high schools like Cretin, St. Thomas Academy and Visitation. A few other St. Paul friends have sent their kids to SPA, which draws from the whole east metro area.

I'll also add that I've had a few non-Catholic friends who bought lovely homes in very nice St. Paul neighborhoods who ended up feeling like it was harder than they expected to make social connections because they weren't tied into the whole church-school-sports network.

That's why I think St. Paul high schools end up being out-of-sync demographically with their surrounding residential neighborhoods.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-22-2013, 07:37 PM
 
12 posts, read 20,661 times
Reputation: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by northsub View Post
I posted this as another thread, but it is probably more appropriate as its own thread.

I was looking at the demographics of St. Paul's Highland Park high school. The state of Minnesota Education Department data claims the school is 35.9% white.

But, if you look at census data the census tracts that make up the school's attendance area give a population that is 87% white and with the under 18 population being 76% white. [The census tracts do include a small area outside of the attendance area and miss a small area, but it seems unlikely those areas are big enough or different enough to affect the overall numbers.]

What is going on here? I'm wondering if open enrollment is really that big of a factor? Or maybe many of the white students in the area go to different high schools? Or maybe there's a really big difference in the high school age demographics in the attendance area compared to the elementary school age demographics?
Currently there are a number of minority students attending Highland from outside the attendance area.
The district and attendance areas are being re-structured for next school year so it's hard to determine what the exact demographic mix will be.
My kids attended Highland and did very well. They also enjoyed the mix of strudents.
I actually moved them from private schools to attend Highland because I thought it would be better for them. I did not miss writing that tuition check either.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Settings
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2020 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Minnesota > Minneapolis - St. Paul
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:46 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top