Simple things that could save minneapolis from turning into another crime ridden city. (Bloomington: live, vs.)

[mrkue]

I was in Minnepolis visiting family during thanksgiving and to me the city still look the same. The number of murders is very low and continues to fall so why are you saying that Minneapolis is turning into a crime ridden city. My brother in law is a 2 year MN state trooper with 7years on the minneapolis PD and he says it has been more safer in Minneapolis now than before. When you start having crime rates like that of New Orleans than you can start worrying, look, every major city in america has issues including minneapolis, but the truth is, minneapolis is still a city consider by many to be liveable and a desirable destination to start a business. I can't say the same about the other midwest cities like Detroit, St. Louis and Gary.

[insert_name_here_00]

Minneapolis is great. Stop talkin all that nonsense.

Sending people away to wither and die in a prison is not the answer. Logic aside, if you could actually get in touch with your conscience you might see that.

Minneapolis has a huge police force for the size of the city. Not to mention the $50 million they split with St. Paul for the RNC. I don't know where you live, but over north theres an enormous police presence.

Do you personally know any illegals? I've met and worked with a couple dozen. Most work hard and keep as far away from crime and trouble as they can. More so than US citizens and legal immigrants, these guys are scared to death of getting deported. They're not doing sh1t but paying taxes for benefits they'll never see.

I dont know what news-bombarded hole in the wall you lie in, but this is one of the best places to live in the country. The last thing we need is people like you trying your hardest to find flaws in the pearls.

The solution for you is really very simple: If you dont like it, bounce.

[sicarim]

uh

its been proven the three strike system doesnt work.

[Binky .357]

Minneapolis is NOT turning into some crime ridden city. The city is improving itself all of the time. Turn off the news and actually drive around and see for yourself. They are fixing up alot of neighborhoods.

I was in Minnepolis visiting family during thanksgiving and to me the city still look the same. The number of murders is very low and continues to fall so why are you saying that Minneapolis is turning into a crime ridden city.

Minneapolis isn't that bad? Really?

From City-Data.com's own stats page on Mpls...

City-data.com crime index
(higher means more crime, U.S. average = 320.9)
1999 = 816.6
2000 = 722.1
2001 = 653.2
2002 = 634.3
2003 = 667.5
2004 = 674.4
2005 = 769.9
2006 = N/A
2007 = 791.3

The US average is 320.9 and in 2007 Minneapolis's rate is 791.3? Doesn't seem all that "Not so bad" to me.

Crime maps from Minneapolis would also suggest different. So would those cool Shotspotter maps.

I won't theorize on the reasons the city is more dangerous than, for example, Apple Valley (Crime Index: 189.3 in the year 2005) or Burnsville (Crime Index: 202.4 in the year 2006). Deniers will simply dimiss my thoughts on the matter as ignorance, xenophobia, racism...

[Veridian]

Originally Posted by Binky .357

I won't theorize on the reasons the city is more dangerous than, for example, Apple Valley (Crime Index: 189.3 in the year 2005) or Burnsville (Crime Index: 202.4 in the year 2006). Deniers will simply dimiss my thoughts on the matter as ignorance, xenophobia, racism...

Actually, I would accuse you of poor reasoning skills.

A comparison of crime in Minneapolis vs. crime in Apple Valley? You're off your rocker, dude. It is not an apples-to-apples comparison- find the median crime rates of like-sized urban communities and compare them to Minneapolis'. Minneapolis fares quite well in that comparison, which is the only appropriate comparison to make.

In any case, you've proven in other posts that your "urbophobic" (i.e.: fear cities), so yeah, a lot of people here will just plain dismiss your opinion.

[Binky .357]

Originally Posted by Veridian

Actually, I would accuse you of poor reasoning skills.

A comparison of crime in Minneapolis vs. crime in Apple Valley? You're off your rocker, dude. It is not an apples-to-apples comparison- find the median crime rates of like-sized urban communities and compare them to Minneapolis'. Minneapolis fares quite well in that comparison, which is the only appropriate comparison to make.

In any case, you've proven in other posts that your "urbophobic" (i.e.: fear cities), so yeah, a lot of people here will just plain dismiss your opinion.

Nope. Not likely. You're talking about a state where people can enjoy the luxury of being able to sit out in their yard at night looking at the stars or going for a mile long walk at 2AM in their neighborhood without getting jumped. You're talking about a state where a person can park their car in their driveway without having a window broken out and their stereo stolen. You're talking about a state where if a person leaves their doors unlocked when they go to the grocery store for a gallon of milk and a pack of cigarettes their TV and computer will still be there by the time they get back. You're talking about a state where for the most part, you can walk down a sidewalk at pretty much any time of day and not be hustled for change or offered drugs or solicited by a hooker.

Yep, pretty much most of the state is relatively safe.

Now, Minneapolis... three blocks from Lake Street, a friend had his window broken and a pair of $10 shoes stolen off of the back seat. Two months later that same friend had his other window broken and his steering column punched.

I knew a guy off of Portland Ave that used to watch the neighbor deal drugs out of his kitchen window, and where pimps would pick up their hookers on the corner in front of his house; they threatened him one day for calling 911 on them and snapping pictures of them with his digital camera. Went as far as following him into his entryway where his roommate was sitting with a double barrel 12 gauge.

I went to the White Castle in St. Louis Park (a suburb of Mpls, I know) at 2AM to be solicited by three prostitutes while I was waiting for my burgers.

Drive bys, muggings, home invasions, drug deals gone bad, gang activity; those seem to be problems that while they aren't 100% unique to Minneapolis, they are a lot more common in your urban utopia than they are in my backwoods jerkwater hick town. You can keep the crime rates.

But do the criminals a favor and put them on notice: country boys are armed and we don't take well to people that don't respect our right to live a crime free living in a crime free town. And we look out for our neighbors out here.

But what do I know? I guess I'm just an ignorant hick.

Just don't forget to lock your doors, and strip everything of value out of your car when you park it in your driveway at night... and you might wanna avoid the greenway trail system for a while, at leat until they catch the gang of teens pushing people off their bikes and stealing their property.

[Binky .357]

This guy must have poor reasoning skills, too.

[Veridian]

Originally Posted by Binky .357

But what do I know? I guess I'm just an ignorant hick.

True there. However, as regards the rest of your post: make an apple-to-apple comparison, and you might somewhere have the beginnings of a valid point.

And yes, you do have poor reasoning skills. This forum and anything I say here cannot change that. More education might perhaps do so. In any case, I'm done with you: I really don't regard your opinion as remotely informed.

[Binky .357]

Originally Posted by Veridian

True there. However, as regards the rest of your post: make an apple-to-apple comparison, and you might somewhere have the beginnings of a valid point.

And yes, you do have poor reasoning skills. This forum and anything I say here cannot change that. More education might perhaps do so. In any case, I'm done with you: I really don't regard your opinion as remotely informed.

I guess it's a good thing that I really don't care what you think.

Whatever the case, Minneapolis is a lot more dangerous than pretty much every other area of the state. There's no denying that. I really couldn't care less about "similarly sized cities". Those cesspools can have their own crime problems all to themselves. I'll never visit them.

Minneapolis, however, concerns me because responsibilities sometime dictate that I travel within its borders.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Veridian

Actually, I would accuse you of poor reasoning skills.

A comparison of crime in Minneapolis vs. crime in Apple Valley? You're off your rocker, dude. It is not an apples-to-apples comparison- find the median crime rates of like-sized urban communities and compare them to Minneapolis'. Minneapolis fares quite well in that comparison, which is the only appropriate comparison to make.

In any case, you've proven in other posts that your "urbophobic" (i.e.: fear cities), so yeah, a lot of people here will just plain dismiss your opinion.

Very true. Comparing Minneapolis to the suburbs does sound kind of farfetched. Brooklyn Center vs. Apple Valley might be more appropriate. Minneapolis vs. New Orleans, St. Louis, or other cities sounds more plausible.

Minneapolis has actually improved since the 1990's.