minneapolis population (Bloomington, Richfield, Golden Valley: tax, living, suburbs)

[GraniteStater]

Scott, Wright, Carver, and Sherburne counties have some of the fastest growth in the Twin Cities metro area. All of these counties have less than 10% of the total population over age 65. That means that the age range is generally middle-age and younger.

[Ben Around]

Originally Posted by Plains10

Scott, Wright, Carver, and Sherburne counties have some of the fastest growth in the Twin Cities metro area. All of these counties have less than 10% of the total population over age 65. That means that the age range is generally middle-age and younger.

That's refelctive of who moves. People in their 20s and people with young families move much more apt to move than those who are older.

[Waterboy526]

Looks like Raleigh, NC just passed you guys in population too. Of course we only have like 1.6 million in our metro area, which is much smaller than the Minneapolis metro.

Raleigh Passes Minneapolis in Population :: WRAL.com

[Minnehahapolitan]

That is not entirely accurate. This is based on current estimates of Raleigh's population and is comparing the census data from 2000. Minneapolis has gained at least a few thousand people since the last census.

[Waterboy526]

Originally Posted by Minnehahapolitan

That is not entirely accurate. This is based on current estimates of Raleigh's population and is comparing the census data from 2000. Minneapolis has gained at least a few thousand people since the last census.

You're right and they can play with the numbers any way they want to. Just thought I would share. Minneapolis is half the land area of Raleigh so that has something to do with it to, and obviously you're Metro is more than double the size of Raleigh-Durham.

[BlackOut]

I already replied to this over in the Raleigh forum, but I want to point it out here too. The important thing to look at here is where the numbers are coming from. They were released by Raleigh's Growth Management Division and they used estimates for Minneapolis that were released by the Census Bureau. The estimates released by the Census Bureau have basically been a joke since they continually under count people.

I found that the Metropolitan Council releases their own numbers too and as of 2006 the city of Minneapolis had a population of 387,970.

I also pointed out that being Minneapolis and St. Paul are the central cities and they literally border one another (no, they are not completely separated by the Mississippi River) it’s only logical to count them together. If one were to accept this, which most won’t because of all the egotism, the numbers look a lot different.

Minneapolis – St. Paul (107.7 sq. mi)
2000 Census: 669,769
2006 ESTIMATE: 674,590

Here are some other numbers to consider:

City of Minneapolis (54.9 sq mi)
OFFICIAL 2000 Census: 382,618
2006: 387,970 (The Metropolitan Council)

City of Raleigh (114.6 sq mi)
OFFICIAL 2000 Census: 276,093
2008: 374,320 (City of Raleigh Planning Department's Growth Management Division)

Minneapolis – St. Paul MSA
2000 Census: 2,968,806
2006 ESTIMATE: 3,175,041

Raleigh – Cary MSA
2000 Census: 797,071
2006 ESTIMATE: 994,551


Minneapolis-St. Paul-St. Cloud, MN-WI CSA
2006 ESTIMATE: 3,502,891

Raleigh-Durham-Cary, NC CSA
2006 ESTIMATE: 1,565,223

Probably the most important factor - Urban Area:
Minneapolis-St. Paul Urban Area
2,388,593

Raleigh Urban Area
541,527

[Minnehahapolitan]

The City of Raleigh grew by 100,000 people in less than a decade. That may reflect a good economy, but that can't be good otherwise. There is a difference between growing pains and breaking your leg bones to stretch them.

[Elle Coolio]

Originally Posted by Minnehahapolitan

The space you enjoy as a resident here can only be maintained if people are also willing to move into the core city; otherwise we will have Atlantaesque traffic in only a matter of a couple decades.
The MPS are overburdened from a lack of students. They need more students to have more funding, a twenty-three year veteran of the system should know that all too well. Other districts are overburdened because of too many students which they cannot physically accomodate.
It isn't that MnDOT doesn't know how to make a coherent road system; it is that Mpls. has reached a critical point where it can no longer build its way out of congestion. You will not see another freeway built in the core area of the region, I494 can only get so big. The best option to ease congestion is to promote new means of transporttion; be it public, bicycles or birch-bark canoes. If fewer people are on the roads, there is more room for commerce and suburbanites.
I am wishing for more density because it is the best urban form for a sustainable and coherent style. I don't fancy my city a Manhattan, It never will be and I wouldn't want it. It is silly to try to find alterior motives here when there simply aren't any. Minneapolis is going to have the same national importance if it decides to make good decisions or bad ones. If I wanted to "hang" with larger cities I would make a case to steal the headquarters of a half-dozen Fortune 500 companies and half the MoMA art collection.
Minneapolis is never going to be the same city it was in the Carter Administration. The population growth here is inevitable. It leaves only one question; how does the city best cope with that gain? If you think that answer is to continue to push the geographic boundaries of urbanization, neither of us will get what we want.

Well, yes, I'm aware of the receeding student enrollment of students in MPS. I was also here when they were building more schools to accommodate the growing number of students a number of years ago. I would imagine one of the reasons the number of students enrolled in MPS has diminished would be the horrific administration the district has had for some time. It's up to MPS to change the management and tools to reach the educational goals of the district to make parents want their kids in the district. Not just my opinion, it's a fact shown by the continued decrease in enrollment.

Not quite sure how having more and more people moving into the core of the city make it more pleasing for those who do enjoy having space and being able to go a mile or two in under three hours but I'm sure you have an answer to that!

[Minnehahapolitan]

Originally Posted by Elle Coolio

Well, yes, I'm aware of the receeding student enrollment of students in MPS. I was also here when they were building more schools to accommodate the growing number of students a number of years ago. I would imagine one of the reasons the number of students enrolled in MPS has diminished would be the horrific administration the district has had for some time. It's up to MPS to change the management and tools to reach the educational goals of the district to make parents want their kids in the district. Not just my opinion, it's a fact shown by the continued decrease in enrollment.

Not quite sure how having more and more people moving into the core of the city make it more pleasing for those who do enjoy having space and being able to go a mile or two in under three hours but I'm sure you have an answer to that!

The adminintration of the MPS may leave something to be desired, but that does not explain why some city schools are wildly popular while others are horrible. There are multiple reasons for this, but lack of adequate funding is among the most obvious. The more kids there are in a system, the more the district is funded.
I do have an answer for that. People who enjoy their space and want to move uninhibited are best for suburban living. Having more people in the City allows for fewer people in suburbia. Having less people living in the suburbs means that traffic will be calmer, schools will be sized more porportionally to the number of seats available in the schools, a lower requisite density, et cetera. People who choose to live in the City are better prepared (even may have a stronger desire) to live among a higher density of people. They can still have open spaces, but are less bothered by small backyards or by living next to a convenient store or apartment building. If one group is bothered by living among density, and one group is not. Well...the answer of where to put more people should be rather obvious.

[Mistacoolio20]

Originally Posted by michael31681

i was reading about how cities annex some of there suburbs to increase in size. minneapolis is barely in the top fifty in terms of most populated cities in the usa. minneapolis covers only 55 square miles with in the city limits. how can we compete. i was looking at chicago and that city covers over 200 square miles in the city limits. omaha nebraska has more people then minneapolis. will minneapolis ever do this to increase in population? im from minneapolis and im proud of its sucess but i would like to see it hang with the big time cities.

I would like Minneapolis to stay dense, I wouldn't want any suburb incorped in my city.