Nice job Minneapolis, 50 other cities are better at education than you are. (school district, gated)

[PullMyFinger]

In a state where education is king, Minnesota that is consistently one of the top 5 states in the union for education, Minneapolis is a complete embarrassment. And it's a good place to get mugged or raped or stabbed or murdered now too.

So sad, Minneapolis used to be a really nice place. Now it's closer to Baltimore than it is to New York, a city that Minneapolis emulates.

http://www.startribune.com/study-les...ool/331138181/

[montymontage]

i'm so far from a Minneapolis booster; in fact, when i point out the boosting on other threads, the threads vanish...in any event, you're full of rot son! pull your own finger and go from there.

[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger

In a state where education is king, Minnesota that is consistently one of the top 5 states in the union for education, Minneapolis is a complete embarrassment. And it's a good place to get mugged or raped or stabbed or murdered now too.

So sad, Minneapolis used to be a really nice place. Now it's closer to Baltimore than it is to New York, a city that Minneapolis emulates.

Minneapolis has lowest graduation rate compared to 50 other major cities - StarTribune.com

Yeah, it looks like a public education systems segregated by race and economic status doesn't work very well, at least not for those at the bottom of the pile. I wonder why it's allowed to continue. Who has an interest in maintaining the status quo in the face of failure?

[srsmn]

Originally Posted by PullMyFinger

In a state where education is king, Minnesota that is consistently one of the top 5 states in the union for education, Minneapolis is a complete embarrassment. And it's a good place to get mugged or raped or stabbed or murdered now too.

So sad, Minneapolis used to be a really nice place. Now it's closer to Baltimore than it is to New York, a city that Minneapolis emulates.

Minneapolis has lowest graduation rate compared to 50 other major cities - StarTribune.com

Did you notice the mention of New York's comparably dismal scores on this metric?

Anyway, yes: this has been a problem for years. Graduation rates for MPS chart a bit higher, but a study that includes students in charters around the city is much more sincere.

Does this include students open-enrolling in other districts? That has been shown to have a net negative impact on academic achievement, as well.

[srsmn]

Originally Posted by montymontage

i'm so far from a Minneapolis booster; in fact, when i point out the boosting on other threads, the threads vanish...in any event, you're full of rot son! pull your own finger and go from there.

Really? When did that happen?

[cathedralhill1]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

Yeah, it looks like a public education systems segregated by race and economic status doesn't work very well, at least not for those at the bottom of the pile. I wonder why it's allowed to continue. Who has an interest in maintaining the status quo in the face of failure?

I think there's some truth in this.

An easy question to answer, though. It's the ones who are successful who are interested in maintaining the status quo because somehow they think that surrounding themselves with others exactly like them is what has made them successful. And they have tremendous power to keep things that way.

[Leftside]

Originally Posted by Glenfield

Yeah, it looks like a public education systems segregated by race and economic status doesn't work very well, at least not for those at the bottom of the pile. I wonder why it's allowed to continue. Who has an interest in maintaining the status quo in the face of failure?

Not sure how you figure race plays into this. Wouldn't that just be admitting that races have more differences than just their skin color? I'll let you guys decide.

As far as economic status, sure it comes into play - as wealthy families are more likely to be able to take an active role in their children's education. But that's what it's really about - parent involvement. It is no secret that families with 2 parents generally raise more academically successful students. So, rather than focusing on things like "segregation" and funding for schools - we should be promoting families staying together and being involved in their child's education.

In my honest opinion, fix the families, that will fix education.

[PullMyFinger]

Originally Posted by Leftside

Not sure how you figure race plays into this. Wouldn't that just be admitting that races have more differences than just their skin color? I'll let you guys decide.

As far as economic status, sure it comes into play - as wealthy families are more likely to be able to take an active role in their children's education. But that's what it's really about - parent involvement. It is no secret that families with 2 parents generally raise more academically successful students. So, rather than focusing on things like "segregation" and funding for schools - we should be promoting families staying together and being involved in their child's education.

In my honest opinion, fix the families, that will fix education.

I've been ripped by liberals for suggesting the family is the problem. In their utopia there is no mother or father, just parents 1,2 and 3 if necessary and the child is raised by big guvmint. What happened to the dream?

[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by cathedralhill1

I think there's some truth in this.

An easy question to answer, though. It's the ones who are successful who are interested in maintaining the status quo because somehow they think that surrounding themselves with others exactly like them is what has made them successful. And they have tremendous power to keep things that way.

I think you're right when you focus on "the ones who are successful" as the ones responsible for perpetuating the system, but let's look beyond wealthy parents and students. The administrators of a failed school system are still paid a lot of money and have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. How many administration and school board jobs could be eliminated if we went to a county-wide school district system? Potentially a lot, so those people sure don't want to see any structural changes.

[Glenfield]

Originally Posted by Leftside

Not sure how you figure race plays into this. Wouldn't that just be admitting that races have more differences than just their skin color? I'll let you guys decide.

As far as economic status, sure it comes into play - as wealthy families are more likely to be able to take an active role in their children's education. But that's what it's really about - parent involvement. It is no secret that families with 2 parents generally raise more academically successful students. So, rather than focusing on things like "segregation" and funding for schools - we should be promoting families staying together and being involved in their child's education.

In my honest opinion, fix the families, that will fix education.

Race plays into it because there is a correlation between race and economic status. I agree that the family structure is the key.