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Old 07-13-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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It isn't just Minneapolis. This is happening all over. The pearl clutching over being inconvenienced is amusing.
Well at the end of the day, if the point of a social movement is to advance your cause it is unclear how shutting down a freeway helps. Sure it symbolically may feel good to the people doing it. But, in the long term, it simply "polarizes the issue", enflames opposition, and worst of all drives away persuadable moderates.


I'm very sympothetic to BLM's basic cause, but very much question SOME of its tactics and rhetoric. BLM has some pretty good legislative ideas (independent police investigations, use of force training, bias training, pro-active measures to preemptively identify problematic police officers, criminal justice reform for non-violent felons, etc). But, all of that gets lots in the divisive images of people blocking freeways.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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It's starting to look more and more like Baltimore. Three thugs that could be Obama's sons shot an 52 year old man they were robbing because he wasn't moving fast enough in broad daylight.

You can thank liberal politics for all this CRAP. Trump is America's last chance.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:13 AM
 
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It's starting to look more and more like Baltimore. Three thugs that could be Obama's sons shot an 52 year old man they were robbing because he wasn't moving fast enough in broad daylight.

You can thank liberal politics for all this CRAP. Trump is America's last chance.
Wrong. These kinds of crimes have been going on no matter who was in office. To me, Trump is not America's last chance. His divisive ways aren't going to work. And no, I won't vote for Hilary either.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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You can thank liberal politics for all this CRAP. Trump is America's last chance.
Local police departments care little about who is POTUS at the time. They do their own thing regardless.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:40 AM
 
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You can thank liberal politics for all this CRAP. Trump is America's last chance.

LOL

Last chance to be flushed down the toilet.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:53 AM
 
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Local police departments care little about who is POTUS at the time. They do their own thing regardless.
The President can start waves of change that will emanate to the state and then the local level.
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Local police departments care little about who is POTUS at the time. They do their own thing regardless.
Thank you. So many people are expecting the President to get the crime rate down. There are those saying they'll vote for Trump because they think he'll bring the crime down. No President has been able to directly do that. Reducing the crime is something local governments have to do, not the federal government.
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Old 07-13-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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The President can start waves of change that will emanate to the state and then the local level.
The President can give speeches, and attempt to influence lawmakers, but can do little else directly.

The current POTUS can't even appoint a Supreme Court Justice (which might influence some aspects of legal interpretations in the SCOTUS and create "waves of change") because some Republicans in Congress are directly impeding that process.

Laws are introduced by the Legislative Branch, not the Executive. Talk to your Congresscritters.

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Old 07-13-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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The President can start waves of change that will emanate to the state and then the local level.
That sounds like something he'd say, and then have no follow-up on.
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Old 07-13-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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The President can start waves of change that will emanate to the state and then the local level.
Show me where this has happened? Last I checked, NYC had its highest murder rates during the Reagan/Bush Sr. administrations.
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