Murder in Rosemount, MN (Minneapolis, Richfield: crime rate, house, neighborhoods)

[Camden Northsider]

What's going on in the South Metro? First the murders in the South Mpls, another murder in Richfield recently, and now a murder in Rosemount, MN:

Stabbed Rosemount teen wanted to talk about a girl

kare11.com :: KARE 11 TV - Teen in custody for Rosemount's first murder

These articles state that this is Rosemount's first murder - if that is the case, it's definitely not the first time a Rosemountian has been convicted of murder. In 1998 a Rosemount resident/burglar beat a Liberian immigrant to death while robbing his home: High court upholds Rosemount man's murder conviction.
And the City of Rosemount's website does report increases in Part 1 (serious) crimes in recent years, despite the misleading title of this page: City of Rosemount -- Crime statistics show Rosemount remains a very safe community.

[golfgal]

Yes, two high school teens got in a fight an one killed the other. It is a very sad situation. The murder is the first that has happened in Rosemount ever. There is nothing going on in the South Suburbs. This is an isolated incident, not a random crime like you see in Minneapolis.

[Minnehahapolitan]

First, I would say that there is a good majority of homicides in the City are not random.
Second, the boy who was killed went to the house to talk about some girl. From what I understand, it was not a violent provocation. He knew the kid, but was hardly expecting to get stabbed.

[Camden Northsider]

Originally Posted by golfgal

Yes, two high school teens got in a fight an one killed the other. It is a very sad situation. The murder is the first that has happened in Rosemount ever. There is nothing going on in the South Suburbs. This is an isolated incident, not a random crime like you see in Minneapolis.

I don't know - Rosemount's 62 burglaries in 2004 and 90 burglaries in 2003 seems like a fair amount of "random crime" for a small town of 20,000. I bet if you put several Camden neighborhoods in Minneapolis together, say Victory, Shingle Creek, Lind-Bohanon, Webber-Camden, and maybe half of Cleveland (which would equal about 20,000 people) together and analyzed their crime stats alongside Rosemount, MN- I would guess that there probably isn't much of a difference in terms of levels of crime, and if you compared Rosemount to a cross-section of any number of low-crime neighborhoods in Minneapolis, you would probably find that the composite of these neighborhoods' crimes were less than that of Rosemount's.

There are many similarities between the Rosemount murder and the murders that take place in Minneapolis - it was a 'riff' between high school age youth that led to impulsive violence and death, which is the case with the majority of murders in Minneapolis. The incidence of the loss of a Minneapolis youth's life is just as unfortunate, and his or her life is just as valuable, as the murder of a suburban youth.

[nick is rulz]

Im almost positive that two months worth of crime stats in the aforementioned neighborhoods for 2004 would prove otherwise. I agree with the point you're making though.

crime happens everywhere, bottom line. There is no "safe" area to completely escape it, and thats life.

[golfgal]

Originally Posted by Camden Northsider

I don't know - Rosemount's 62 burglaries in 2004 and 90 burglaries in 2003 seems like a fair amount of "random crime" for a small town of 20,000. I bet if you put several Camden neighborhoods in Minneapolis together, say Victory, Shingle Creek, Lind-Bohanon, Webber-Camden, and maybe half of Cleveland (which would equal about 20,000 people) together and analyzed their crime stats alongside Rosemount, MN- I would guess that there probably isn't much of a difference in terms of levels of crime, and if you compared Rosemount to a cross-section of any number of low-crime neighborhoods in Minneapolis, you would probably find that the composite of these neighborhoods' crimes were less than that of Rosemount's.

There are many similarities between the Rosemount murder and the murders that take place in Minneapolis - it was a 'riff' between high school age youth that led to impulsive violence and death, which is the case with the majority of murders in Minneapolis. The incidence of the loss of a Minneapolis youth's life is just as unfortunate, and his or her life is just as valuable, as the murder of a suburban youth.

I guess you can skew statistics all you want but the majority of the 'burglaries' in Rosemount are bikes taken off someone's front lawn which are later recovered for the most part. I guess you can throw in a couple cell phones and Ipods into that as well since they are also reported as burglaries.

No one said that a suburban kid's life is more valuable then a city kid's life and to insinuate that I would even think that in the first place is extremely offensive. The BIG difference between this murder and the majority of murders in Minneapolis is many of the murders are gang related in Minneapolis, this was not.

Also, you are the one on here that keeps talking about having to watch your back in your various neighborhoods and you will be fine. Well, we don't even need to do that here, you are perfectly safe walking around, day or night. I am sure you are just fine in your neighborhood but I seriously doubt that it is safer then Rosemount. Another thing, how many things to unreported in your area as well? I doubt that many people in your area are going to report a stolen bike or a cell phone out of a car where as most people here will.

[Isaysos]

Wow, Looks like the burbs are going to heck in a hand basket!

[Slig]

people filing a police report every time they lose an IPod or cellphone? What a joke...

[Camden Northsider]

Originally Posted by golfgal

I guess you can skew statistics all you want but the majority of the 'burglaries' in Rosemount are bikes taken off someone's front lawn which are later recovered for the most part. I guess you can throw in a couple cell phones and Ipods into that as well since they are also reported as burglaries.

Another thing, how many things to unreported in your area as well? I doubt that many people in your area are going to report a stolen bike or a cell phone out of a car where as most people here will.

Well, the crime maps for my neighborhood and the adjacent one in Mpls have shown 1 or 0 crimes total for the week two weeks in a row, but then this week ours jumped up to 3 - so after thinking about it, the neighborhoods I mentioned collectively would probably equal 2-3 times the rosemount crime for the year, but I think my neighborhood would still be pretty close (of course my neighborhood has a lot less people/ geography than Rosemount). However, I still think if you took the 5 (or however many neighborhoods it took to equal 20,000 people) lowest-crime neighborhoods in Minneapolis, the collective crime rate would probably be pretty equivalent to Rosemount - I'm not saying Rosemount doesn't have a lot less crime per capita than Minneapolis, I'm just saying there are neighborhoods in minneapolis that are just as safe as living in Rosemount.

I do think people in my neighborhood would report a stolen bike, they don't mess around - I'd say about half of the residents here are part of an organized block club. Growing up in my hometown neighborhood we would never call the police, but I was the victim of having my bike stolen and recovered (by me) 3 times before finally being stolen for good - i'm a big advocate of bike locks nowadays. I also recovered my stolen tennis racket from a kid playing with it once so when my car was stolen a few years back in Uptown, I was sure that my powerful detective abilities/ sixth sense was going to kick in to find it (and my valuables inside it) - unfortunately that didn't work, but the cops found it- minus the valuables and a back window, but I gained a cupholder and some drug paraphernilia and only had to pay about $200 to get it out of the impound!.

[pirate_lafitte]

Originally Posted by Slig

people filing a police report every time they lose an IPod or cellphone? What a joke...

Overusage of police resources and wasting officers time. Very common. To be honest, MN isn't the only place where this happens. It's all over. Someone called the police on me because I was on campus at 2AM. I suspect it was a freaked out citizen.