03-21-2019, 02:46 PM
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Although Minnesota has many wonderful things about it, the older we get, the harder it is to deal with the winters. We are both in our mid 50's and unfortunately, we aren't able to retire for another 10 years or so.
We are looking for little or no snow. Cost of living is also very important. We are going to visit St. Augustine and Jacksonville, Fl, Brunswick and Savannah, Ga, Charleston, SC and possibly Gulf Shores, Al next month.
If we don't fall in love with one of those places, Franklin, Murfreesboro and Brentwood, Tennessee with be the next cities we check out.
We want affordability, warmer weather, water (lakes, rivers, streams, oceans), we want small town feel, beauty, green grass and trees, job opportunities, things to do.
Would love to hear suggestions from anyone that is familiar with any of the places I named.
Thanks a million!
03-21-2019, 06:34 PM
Location: Bel Air, California
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use to live in Putnam (Palatka) and Volusia (Daytona Beach) Counties in Florida. St Augustine (outside of the Keys) was my favorite place down there. More laid back than than most of the coastal areas, lots of history and cool architecture and pretty nice beaches. Still a bit of a haul to Miami and the Keys but you have a lot of the Mid-Atlantic States and the sights they offer within a days drive.
03-21-2019, 08:24 PM
Location: Clarksville, TN
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Hello! I moved from Marshall MN almost a year ago to Tennessee. I live 50 north of Nashville, in Clarksville TN. I was stationed here in the Army (Ft. Campbell) in the 80's and loved it. I am regretting my move. So much crime here. Murders every day. You know it's bad when someone gets shot in broad daylight in front of the Country Music Hall of Fame. I am already looking to move elsewhere. Just check out the stats before you move. I didn't. Good luck!
03-22-2019, 12:33 PM
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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I lived in the south for 30 years. The crime is the major drawback. It's bad. Be careful of that whole Nashville area - it was a hot spot to move to for many for years, but has become much more congested and expensive, plus you guessed it - the crime is awful. Nashville is beginning to resemble Atlanta, where I lived for a long time. Everyone is moving there and driving up prices. The winter weather is obviously milder, but the traffic and crime - yikes. Those coastal cities you mentioned are oppressively humid and crime ridden - especially Charleston and Savannah with the crime......but if no snow if your major selling point, those spots on the coast are the place to be.
I just turned 50 myself. We're originally from Michigan, and as such are no strangers to snow and cold, but all my years in the south have made dealing with these winters very hard, so I know where you're coming from, OP. The cold I can deal with, but the freekin snow and the pains that come with it.....holy crap it's awful. I seriously cannot see myself standing in 10 below temps pulling snow off my roof and pushing a snowblower back & forth into my old age. I don't mind it during the holidays, but New Years to May 1st can be SO depressing.
That said, when this nicer weather (like the past couple weeks) begins to roll in I fall in love with Minnesota all over again. One of the most underrated places in the country in many ways, IMO. Probably gonna be enough to keep us here for at least another few years, but our dream has been to eventually move to and spend our final days down in the Ozarks, so we'll see. The economy in those spots is not nearly what it is up here, and we still have kids in school, so probably still 4 to 5 years away at the earliest.
But who knows.....we already love Minnesota (aside from the winters) and another 4 to 5 years here may make it too hard to leave.......we'll see. Just do your diligence before moving.......grass aint always greener.....even without snow on top of it.
Right now it's 50 out and I'm goin' outisde to bask in it!
03-22-2019, 03:34 PM
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I'm not sure that exchanging cold weather for hot/humid weather is such a bargain. For me personally, a sweltering climate is absolutely not an option. CA might have some appeal, but the South is a no-go ( for other reasons as well).
03-22-2019, 03:54 PM
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I'm in my 30s have lived in the midwest my whole life and even I'm getting fed up with the winters.
03-23-2019, 07:59 AM
Location: Bel Air, California
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coconuts falling from tress kill more people every year than slipping on ice, or so I'd like you to believe
03-23-2019, 02:11 PM
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coconuts falling from tress kill more people every year than slipping on ice, or so I'd like you to believe
You just might be right...nasty coconuts...
Still reminiscing about the 1970 Vikings....and Gary Cuozzo. They really couda "been somebody" at 12-2, but a Gold Rush got in their playoff way..
03-24-2019, 06:56 AM
Location: Columbus OH
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You just might be right...nasty coconuts...
Oh jeeze, you would have to bring up the Vikings and their painful playoff history. While I remember the days of Gary Cuozzo, Gene Washington and Bill Brown, I also painfully recall:
1998 Season: Vikes lose to Falcons in Overtime NFC Championship Game with flubbed field goal from hitherto perfect kinder Gary Anderson
2009 Season: the infamous ‘bountygate’ loss to the New Orleans Saints
2015 Season: Vikes lose to Seahawks 10-9 due to a Soul-crushing 27-yard missed field goal at end of the game.
I am a Vikings fan, but thankfully they’re not a big factor in my being a huge fan of my home state of Minnesota!
03-24-2019, 09:52 AM
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Oh jeeze, you would have to bring up the Vikings and their painful playoff history. While I remember the days of Gary Cuozzo, Gene Washington and Bill Brown, I also painfully recall:
Genghis has all kinds of theories, LOL
No longer a Viking fan, and haven't been one for many years. I hardly watch anymore. But they were my team, from the ,late 60s tlo late 70s, when the fun petered out.
Minnesota is a great place to live--I just find it ironic when some want to leave, citing weather issues, when their desired locales have the same problem, on the other side of the temperature spectrum...
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Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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